Which one to pick, given work is pretty similar.
Netflix doesn't offer stock refreshers.
- Dropbox / Eng 🍕&🥓&🍟Dropbox for the impact (smaller), Google to chill, Netflix to stay on your toes
- We are experiencing the longest economic expansion in history. A correction is inevitable. Netflix (all cash) is likely the safest short term guarantee. If you intend to hold for 5-10 years, then Google would be a good bet. Dropbox may be profitable, but what is their story for future expansion?
- Staples riftFolks, it’s obvious that Dropbox has a skunkworks project that focuses on file/data storage within people’s own minds. No need for server space and the utility costs that come with it when the neurological capacity for one human, never mind billions of humans far exceeds anything currently in operation especially when you realize the amount of energy we generate in our own bodies. If they get it down to a cellular/DNA level then the capacity for scale is infinite lolSep 3, 2018 3
- Does Netflix have annual salary hikes? Or is getting competing offers the only way to get a hike?
- No, it’s very different from Google.
E3 to E4 is mostly up to the manager. E4 to E5 generally happens after you work closely with at least a few other teams, so multiple managers are aware of your work and can vouch for your promotion. E5 to E6 generally happens when you’re key enough to the org that multiple directors know of your work and are willing to support your promo decision. Beyond E6, I have no idea.Sep 1, 2018 6
- Google will be super chill and structured. You’ll have geeks, nerds, and minimal jocks. Everything is algorithmic, documented, predictable. I didn’t get an exceeds one time because there could only be x per group. Bell curve sorta thing.
Netflix is “minimal process” and passive aggressive. You won’t know if you are loved, hated, or tolerated... 360 reviews supposed to reveal anything you would need to know. I got GLOWING 360... I went from $350k to $450k first year, $600k third year, then fired 2 months later (right before new salary would have taken effect). Why? I can only guess ... I had more experience and better performance than my boss... and maybe he decided I was a threat. 0 checks and balances at Nflx. “Sports team” no harm no foul. Multiple people quit after I was canned (freaked them out). Looking at LinkedIn stats... 9000 former employees... 6000 current. They only had 2000 total employees about 4-5 years ago. Seems busted, no?
Dropbox? No idea. Seems late to their game. Where will the product/company go?
If you survive Netflix for 2-3 years... could be fun. If you are social, confident, and smart... you will figure it out. If you are nervous or tentative... or want long term stability... choose Google.
- 360 reviews are where your peers, subordinates, and superiors submit feedback. Then, your superiors get to read it. That’s it.. There was no “rating” or levels. My feedback was glowing positive. When I was fired, I was told my performance sucked. The same person who told me this had offered me a big raise, more responsibility a few months prior. Salty? Yes... the culture can be interpreted for unfair gain, and unfair loss. We once fired a guy because he worked too much. The story was “if he thinks he needs to work 12hrs a day, something is wrong. Let’s part ways now.” How do I like FB? The past few years have been pretty good. Things are reasonable and predictable. My manager doesn’t lie or deceive me, and I can switch teams if I feel like it.Sep 3, 2018 7
- IBM / Mgmt > FBmoreGoogle, no brainer dude.... GOOGLE. Netfix or Dropbox could literally disappear tomorrow...
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- Your current total comp is 400+. Would you really consider changing to a new job with 450k? Is that only a ~10% hike? Depending how much of your new comp comes from sign on ( one time payment ), do you see significant compensation growth with changing your job ?
- Then more power to you. No need to stay. I would say the cliche and suggest to pick the place where you think you will be happy. When you were talking to the hiring managers, did you feel any red flags? Being too vague, portraying a work life balance that is not reasonable, did you feel any dishonesty? Which company did show you the most amount of love? One campany may have taken you out to lunch with the team and the vp may have talked to you about 45 minutes. Where other companies may have not shown any special interest. Where are you going to learn the most?
- As others mention, the total comp is very similar to each other. It is very difficult to judge what will happen to each stock. Needless to say, it is also surprising that these senior level offers do not have a sign on bonus. You will be fine whereever you end up with. Optimizing for total comp may not be the most important at this point. They are very similar. Try to engage as much as you can with the prospective people you are going to work with. Attempt to build an intuition and a gut feeling. Then follow it.
- Airbnb PygdvGoogle L5+ life is amazing in general. It’s like being tenured at a top university. You have job security, instant respect, and great WLB. Also, Google allows you to leave and come back at the same level.
Meanwhile, an employee at Netflix is always a temporary worker. Even superstars can get managed out on a whim. A huge raise followed by being fired is shockingly common.
I would go to Google, settle for a year or two, and then explore other companies. At that point, you might be able to get even higher offers. And even in the event that a new company fires you, you can always go back to Google.
- Netflix (obviously I am biased)
On a serious note, go with something that you are passionate about. You are going to spend a lot of your awake time at work, so spend it on something you love. Team members, work, impact and comp (in this order) for me.
- Lending Club / Eng be kind :)First of all, congratulations! It's a great problem to have :-)
Depends on the team you like. But in general if you are getting good teams in all 3, I would suggest go for Google for these reasons:
1. Better work life balance.
2. Better stability along with growth.
3. Variety of work/teams to choose from internally if you are bored after a few years.
4. Exposure to vast pool of technologies.
5. Culture and perks.
- To me it'd come down to factors like commute time relative to where you live, and the specific team/hiring manager.
If I were in your shoes I'd tell Google I want to move to Seattle. They'll drop the pay ~10% but you'll save 15% in taxes and 30-40% on house price. I'd love to work at Netflix but they're Bay Area only.