How cruel India is to put curfew over Kashmir

Careem eagle_eye
Sep 10 84 Comments

Morally and ethically it is wrong to cut the communication with outer world. I heard people can't even see doctors and there is shortage of food and medicine.

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  • Careem eagle_eye
    OP
    Ask them what they want. Do a honest referendum.
    Sep 10 16
    • Bloomberg dopehope
      No this time 1.3 billion indians did a referundum to no more nonsense
      Sep 11
    • TripAdvisor owlwise
      Sorry Indians don't count.
      Sep 11
    • Bloomberg dopehope
      Sorry aholes opinions don’t count
      Sep 11
    • Microsoft jxu2uh
      The precondition for referendum was that pakistani army would have to leave pok.
      Sep 12
    • Bloomberg dopehope
      And no demographic change which pak orchestrated in pok and indian kashmir
      Sep 13
  • Wipro / Eng TERq21
    First and foremost, kashmir has always been an Indian territory and it will always be that way. So, whatever happens in Kashmir is Indias own internal matter and Kashmir and India are not two separate entities. Just because Muslim population has increased over the years doesn’t mean that it will be a part of Pakistan or a separate thing per se.

    Now to answer your question.
    Kashmir wants India to build their roads, schools, dams, etc. They want it to become India’s no. 1 tourist attraction. Having said that, Kashmir wants all of this from India while being anti-India. Hence the curfew.
    Sep 10 6
    • Wipro / Eng TERq21
      Quite frankly, when Trump became the President, a large sect of people from California proposed the idea of California being a different country.

      Now we both know that’s so stupid of those people and not at all right and that’s not going to happen taking the whole country into consideration.
      Sep 10
    • T-Mobile fun)))
      Simplistic approach doesn't work at a high tension situation. Simply asking doesn't work. Representation of the people was skewed to support only Muslim population there.
      Sep 10
    • Careem eagle_eye
      OP
      It was always muslim majority area. Br honest with history
      Sep 10
    • T-Mobile fun)))
      Muslims never existed until the invention of the religion. Be honest with yourself
      Sep 10
    • Amazon dxgen
      Quite frankly people who dont understand india pakistan issues... should reflect usa and north korea situation.. in addition how would it look if north korea shared a common border.. with US.. Till date Indian leaders have let go of the situation and have let the Kashmir state become rogue.. right now we have a PM who has it in him to correct and bring that territory under control. Yes in the process some good people might get affected, but thats the karma or nature's law..
      Sep 10
  • New Rameny
    Too many criminal elements there - curfew keeps them out
    Sep 10 2
    • Careem eagle_eye
      OP
      Bit curfew puts non criminal people life in danger
      Sep 10
    • New Rameny
      Actually it keeps them safe (in general)
      Sep 10
  • ICF / Eng SouDa
    Indian politicians seem to have this long term agenda of having a proper hindu nation. If Israel can have it, why not us?
    I think the kashmir move and putting the nationality of almost 2mil people at risk (eastern India) are all to further this agenda.
    Sep 10 8
    • ICF / Eng SouDa
      I'm not supporting this. I'm actually against the curfew and internet bans.
      I was just phrasing it so you see the viewpoint of Indian govt
      Sep 10
    • Careem eagle_eye
      OP
      But we should always raise our voice against wrong being. That's humanity
      Sep 10
    • Walmart qopB15
      India has a democracy. People of india have elected a party to decide this, let them tackle that, and you can always put your say in next elections.
      Sep 10
    • TripAdvisor owlwise
      Germany was a democracy too and gave birth to Hitler
      Sep 11
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      Sep 23
  • New Rameny
    Careem, why the hell should India ask “them” what they want , independent nation or whatever ? Separatists should NOT be encouraged . Otherwise you will soon see full blown Sharia out there ! Would that make you feel safe ? Would that make the women of Kashmir safe and sound ? Do you even realize what were the implications of Article 370 ? Why different rules and law for a part of India ?
    Sep 10 7
    • T-Mobile fun)))
      Owning a piece of land doesn't give you the liberty to make your own country from it. There is a constitution that every one in a country needs to abide by. Kashmir operates under Indian constitution and hence there was an amendment made to it to fix the mistakes done in the past. Politicians who have not taken up the issue in the parliament and have incorporated changes into constitution by using presidential power in India. Remember, all this while it was being done in India and not in Pakistan. So now the current government, with the help of people's representatives amends the mistakes of the past with an overwhelming majority of the representatives accepting the bill to be passed. For smoother execution and to avoid people/interested parties who are looking for blood to be spilled on the streets, the government has put forth a curfew. Kashmir is a state in India. Not a country.
      Sep 11
    • TripAdvisor owlwise
      None of what you said refutes that Kashmir only agreed to join based on autonomy and India lied. Kashmir was an independent princely state. It has it's own constitutional exception carved out in Indian constitution.

      The people who live on a piece of land ABSOLUTELY have the right to decide what to do with it. This is where you are talking like a true colonialist now. I guess the British taught you well.
      Sep 11
    • T-Mobile fun)))
      They joined to be a part of India. That means they have to abide by the constitution. If you're not an Indian then it's not your business .
      Sep 11
    • T-Mobile fun)))
      Don't put your nose in others business like the British did.
      Sep 11
    • TripAdvisor owlwise
      The people never got to choose so 'they' didn't join to be a part of India. The Maharaja joined, but only conditional on Kashmiris autonomy being preserved. India LIED.
      Sep 11
  • Broadcom Ltd. qQtf60
    Just make them a separate country
    Sep 10 3
    • Careem eagle_eye
      OP
      Ask them. If they want to live with india or independent, just ask them. Referendum is the solution
      Sep 10
    • ICF / Eng SouDa
      Indian govt doesn't want to give up kashmir. Simple answer. If they wanted to solve the problem, it would have been solved a long time ago
      Sep 10
    • Careem eagle_eye
      OP
      That is not right but this is how it is. May we always with right
      Sep 10
  • Bloomberg dopehope
    OP morally and ethically its wrong to stone pelt soldiers, send suicide bombers, ethnically cleanse hindu population, kill locals participating in democracy, spread fake news to instigate violence, and what does army do ? just arrest the stone pelters not kill them, provide extensive support during floods, run schools for locals, request terrorists to give up guns sometimes even reaching out to parents, making sure minimal destruction to houses by not bombing them when terrorist and family inside, after doing all this mind fucks like you give gyan, thats why military service shd be compulsory otherwise aholes like you think it comes for free
    Sep 10 0
  • Amazon iSteveJobs
    Suggest a better solution. I mean think practically setting aside emotions
    Sep 10 0
  • Wipro / Eng TERq21
    It’s like, I want my apartment to be a part of United Kingdom even though my apartment is in US.
    Sep 10 5
    • ICF / Eng SouDa
      More like Mexico. Atleast get the geographic analogy right numbskull
      Sep 10
    • Careem eagle_eye
      OP
      Using abusive words do not make your argument stronger.
      Sep 10
    • eBay Yeah Bruh
      Culturally there is an ocean of difference.
      Sep 10
    • Wipro / Eng TERq21
      I get the point that you’re referring to the geographic analogy. But I’m not. I’m actually in the US and actually want to be in the UK.
      Sep 10
    • Wipro / Eng TERq21
      You just need to understand a few things smartskull.
      Sep 10
  • Facebook el_idolo1
    lmao @ the fucking Indians in this thread. You guys are my peers? Ethically, you guys are 100 years behind.
    Sep 10 4
    • Bloomberg dopehope
      What smoking bro? Are you from Mars?
      Sep 10
    • eBay Yeah Bruh
      Ethics is irrelevant when you're dealing with places like Kashmir, Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc.
      Sep 10
    • T-Mobile fun)))
      100 years behind in ethics is a good thing. Westernization isn't always good you know.
      Sep 10
    • T-Mobile fun)))
      Also, every country has its own skeletons...chill out Facebook
      Sep 10
  • Adobe NEYU02
    Kashmir getting a referendum after kicking out native Hindu population is just wrong.
    Sep 10 3
    • TripAdvisor owlwise
      The pandits didn't leave until 1989 and were always a minority
      Sep 10
    • Adobe NEYU02
      They were a minority so it's justified to push them out of their homeland? Is this the plan for all Muslim majority areas?
      Sep 10
    • TripAdvisor owlwise
      Not justified but pointing out that your premise is wrong
      Sep 10
  • eBay Yeah Bruh
    The western concept of human rights does not work in India (or Pakistan or Africa or many other places) because the civilizations there have very different cultures and hold very different values. Although the western concept is ideal, in particular, it should not be followed when dealing with especially restive regions like Kashmir that's been a hotbed of terrorism for a while. It's certainly not moral but it's practical.

    If the problems with Kashmir were economic, that's a different story but the problems are because of religion and culture.
    Sep 10 3
    • TripAdvisor owlwise
      Sorry human rights are human rights.
      Sep 11
    • eBay Yeah Bruh
      Terrorist scum are not human. So not applicable.
      Sep 11
    • TripAdvisor owlwise
      Kashmiris are not terrorists. Leave Kashmir if you hate Kashmiris. People like you are why Nehru advocated for Partition.
      Sep 12
  • You're absolutely right OP.

    I think Pakistan should take all the money they've generated through the massive economic growth they have put in place in "Azad Kashmir" and start a war with India to liberate "occupied Kashmir".
    Sep 10 2
    • Bloomberg dopehope
      I think you should seek mental help or its too late
      Sep 10
    • Samsung loki655
      Massive economic growth. Haha
      @dopehope,
      @roxtarr displays a best dry sarcasm.
      Else its an ostrich on Blind
      Sep 10
  • Careem eagle_eye
    OP
    Currently I can also see what they want me want me to see. So we could be sure until we allow international media to go and report
    Sep 10 1
    • Bloomberg dopehope
      Why waiting you can go yourself what stops you?
      Sep 10
  • Bloomberg dopehope
    Its also morally and ethically wrong that you didn’t serve in military and got all the goodies in life for free, young smart officers who trained hard lost their lives before reaching even 30s all volunteering to work in toughest regions where you wont stand even a day
    Sep 10 0
  • T-Mobile fun)))
    People forgot to ask about TC in this thread
    Sep 10 0
  • Careem eagle_eye
    OP
    Are you sure? What about asking them if they are safe or not?
    Sep 10 2
    • New Rameny
      Do you see incidents of stone throwing ?
      Of terrorists ?
      No, and still you consider them not safe ?
      Sep 10
    • Bloomberg dopehope
      Please visit and ask. Spend some money instead of just dry concern
      Sep 10
  • Microsoft techladki
    People who justify the abuse of Kashmiri should probably experience a similar situation with their family.

    Their parents stuck in India without medicines, while they can't even contact them. I'm sure they would love it.
    Sep 15 1
    • T-Mobile fun)))
      I don't think people justify it. But paid stone pelters pelting at your kids is also a good experience don't you think?
      Sep 15
  • Bloomberg dopehope
    Sep 10 0
  • T-Mobile fun)))
    Pakistan has their own issues with land given to them. Their own problems. JK is not their problem to fix.
    Sep 10 0

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