CompensationDec 12, 2018
Intuit➗❓➗

How much have you increased your TC during negotiations?

E.g., company initially offered 200k TC. Your signed offer letter is 250k TC. You negotiated an additional 25% TC.

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Intuit ➗❓➗ OP Dec 12, 2018

Also— do companies bake in wiggle room to initial offers, anticipating you’ll counter with (depending on the poll results), say, an additional X%?

Google 🐱🦊🐹☮️ Dec 12, 2018

Lots of companies will lowball you, yes.

Intuit ➗❓➗ OP Dec 12, 2018

So how can I just ask for 15% more without a counter offer? Just because I’m awesome? I’m sitting on an initial 200k offer. ~3+ yoe. Not Bay Area.

Amazon Chad🕶 Dec 12, 2018

If you're going to negotiate without an actual competing offer, you have to just assert your compensation expectation, and if it's not unreasonable, be unwilling to budge. Obviously, if you ask some unreasonable amount, they'll never agree and likely try very little in counter offering, because they'll think you're bottom line and their top line is too far off. But again, you need to be willing to walk away from their offer in order to truly hold all of the cards

Intuit ➗❓➗ OP Dec 12, 2018

Is it reasonable to expect getting an additional 10-15% without a counter? I’m in the process of getting counters, however I’m not sure they will beat my current 200k offer. Once I do have those, I could simply state I have other offers (not state their amounts), but for me to sign today with the company offering 200k, they could add 10% to the TC.

Google Caravanan Dec 12, 2018

My Google offer went from 240k to 350k after I got a counter offer.

Intuit ➗❓➗ OP Dec 12, 2018

I’m not in the Bay Area or an A-list city, so your wizardry may not be reproducible in my market unfortunately. Congrats though, that’s a big bump! There’s only like 3 companies in my city that pay peak comp. I’m at one of them currently, and I’m in talks with the other.

Square Sh8wRd Dec 12, 2018

That is almost reproducible to almost every Google candidates, unfortunately.

MailChimp bhdhe Dec 12, 2018

0. I asked for a relocation bonus and couldn't even get a couple hundred for silverware and other basics since I moved up here and only had a car's worth of shit. Told "only for senior and above really". Gee thanks.

Intuit ➗❓➗ OP Dec 12, 2018

:( hey you’ll make it to senior with time and get another pay bump!

MailChimp bhdhe Dec 12, 2018

Meh. The pay bump to senior apparently isn't that big so I don't care that much to be honest.

Pure Storage blingboob Dec 12, 2018

My offer went from 120k/0%/40k to 150k/10%/80k. Few things I did when I didn't have a counter, - Didn't reveal what I was making at the time (Made 105k TC) - Did not mention what I expected - Did not react on receiving the original offer, simply said "Thank you, I'll need a week to think about it" - By day 3, they WILL call you back and ask again, now you say you'll get back the next day - Day 4, sit down and write an email about how the initial offer is too low because of X,Y and Z achievements at your current job. And how you won't be accepting it unless you get <insert outrageous expectation>. Mine was 160k/10%/80k. - the recruiter is tired of you, the process has gone on for a week and is wasting their time and they don't want to go through the whole interview process again so they go and actually try to get you. - you receive final offer in the mail, no more phone calls, signalling this is the best the company can do.

Pegasystems BernieSand Dec 12, 2018

Deserves gold

Intuit ➗❓➗ OP Dec 12, 2018

This is fantastic but having it get to the point where they physically mail you an offer sounds like you walked a fine line where the appearance may have been you being fairly disinterested. But it got the result.

Presidio PHrl11 Dec 12, 2018

You look them in the eye and tell them what you are worth. And dont blink

Uber kPCK48 Dec 12, 2018

I negotiated Apple from 270k to 340k and Google from 290k to 325k recently before accepting Uber's offer, which I was only able to to negotiate a signing bonus.