PoliticsJul 6, 2019
ExpediaLark71

If citizenship question is asked on 2020 USA census, how will they verify? Anyone can claim to be a citizen.

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HERE progli 🦊 Jul 6, 2019

It is illegal to claim to be a US citizen when you are not and if discovered can be bad. No sane person should lie about that on an official document.

Envestnet jahfineh Jul 6, 2019

It doesn't matter that's not the point of the question

Microsoft Dunkin🍩 Jul 6, 2019

You can always leave it blank.

Expedia Lark71 OP Jul 6, 2019

Why?

Medallia Maximus8 Jul 6, 2019

Better to stay quite than tell a lie!

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QTdN03 Jul 6, 2019

Really curious to know what those methods are.

Bayer L6@AWS Jul 6, 2019

IRS and Localities/States has all citizenship information because of tax filings linked to your SSN and Address. They just need to cross-reference current census information and tax filings. The rabbit hole keeps going based on social engineering, etc but you get the general direction. Not our fault that the true reason they want to put the question in the census is political. If they truly wanted the information there are way better ways to get this.

Kohl’s karma’s a Jul 6, 2019

how will the IRS know citizenship status? We dont include that info in tax filing.

Atlassian Luffy, M.D Jul 6, 2019

You give that when you get a social security number. The IRS neither knows nor cares, but the Social Security adminstration knows (unless you were naturalized and forgot to update it to them) and for about 90% of people of working age in the US knows they're still alive and because of employers FICA tax filings. For the percent who are purely self employed and actually bother to pay taxes they hear from the IRS once a year

SWARM Gandhigg Jul 6, 2019

You do give citizenship information in a tax filing. If you are an NRA or a citizen/resident with work permit is all part of the filing and any from the employer submits on you. When you work on a w2/w4/1099 citizenship and work permit documents are sent to the IRS yearly.

Amazon i9zlo3 Jul 6, 2019

The goal of the question was laid bare recently: determining citizen voting-age population to redistrict for Republican benefit. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/07/05/trump-just-admitted-something-he-probably-shouldnt-have-about-census-citizenship-question/

Akamai Technologies VmQQ44 Jul 6, 2019

Of course this is what it’s for. Democrats are over represented because illegals are counted in the citizenry which happens to be blue cities and states. Representation is based on the citizenry which illegals don’t qualify as so ultimate red states and red districts will benefit as representatives will redistributed from states with sanctuary cities as should be the case. It’s the whole reason Dems encourage illegal immigration and sanctuary cities so they can steal representation in the House.

Akamai Technologies VmQQ44 Jul 7, 2019

@Meliodas as usual you’re wrong.

Groupon sleepy Jul 6, 2019

All other countries have this, so I’ll answer it accordingly.

Microsoft /*$*/ Jul 6, 2019

Citizens and resident aliens like immigrant workers have different SSN digits. They can clearly read it directly from your SSN

Expedia Lark71 OP Jul 6, 2019

SSN doesnt change once assigned. How will you identify someone who came on H1B, got GC and became citizen? 🤔

Microsoft Harambe’ Jul 6, 2019

Search on their database ? No of H1Bs converted to citizens should not be hard to find for anyone with access.

Oracle Poas871285 Jul 7, 2019

There is a question on the citizenship application- Have you ever claimed to be a US citizen? So it’s up to you to lie in a census or not

Expedia Lark71 OP Jul 7, 2019

Well, lieing as citizen will have far reaching effects on everyone. If all illegals lied (which they will far sure on advice of democrats) in CA WA NY then there has to be created more electoral seats and hence winning these states will tilt results towards democrats.

Expedia e2t2 Jul 7, 2019

Look what data points India will collect. Nationality question is right there. India is also a republic and much more diverse country than usa. They dont have problem.

Akamai Technologies VmQQ44 Jul 7, 2019

There’s nothing unconstitutional about asking about citizenship. It’s been on the census forever and was only recently dropped under Obama.

Akamai Technologies VmQQ44 Jul 8, 2019

The government doesn’t have to give a reason for doing it. They can do it for shits and grins, to piss of the Dems, or any f’ing reason they want because guess what? Asking the question is constitutional.