I managed teams leads and individual contributions, Ask me anything. TC:250k yoe:11
The role is different from what you think it is. As a manager (at least a good one) you empower your teams, strategize and manage stakeholders 50% of the time and the other 50% you deal with people problems and other issues that constantly arise. Percentage changes according to the maturity of the teams but even a stable group will go wrong in 1-3 quarters without a good manager. You are probably an IC, that means your managers have done a good job shielding you for all the s*** that's happening in your area.
@Sjsnwu, not everyone is born as good engineers, actually most aren't. They need to be mentored and gain experience. Beyond that, people problems happen all the time, even for great engineers.
Bruh
How would you resolve a situation wherein the juniormost engineer is not acknowledged for their thoughts or opinions in team meetings, discussions?
Good question, this happens a lot for quiet/introverted people as well. In these case, there's several approaches depending on the situation. if I'm facilitating the meeting, I will openly says "let's hear what bello has to say, it might uncover smth we haven't thought of yet" and then try to get more data to prove/disprove the claim. Another thing I do is give feedback to the most vocal or dismissive person in the group (personally, after the meeting) and ask them to include you in the conversation. Lastly, I would ask the junior to backup their arguments by data, meaning to come prepared for the meeting. It really depends on why are your idea's not heard.
How do you feel pretending whole day work that your job is not total bullshit? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_Jobs Like, you are going to a meeting with managers who manage other managers. You guys talk about some KPIs or whatnot for an hour. Your manager says idiotic thing that you know is idiotic, you pretend that he is not idiot to save his face and your job. How does it make you feel?
All of your comments are meaningless bullshit. Do you work at the apple store or some shit?
No, I’m engineer
If you have technical background/can code, why be manager (except for salary) and not do actual work instead? If you don’t have technical background, how do you cope with understanding that you are total fraud?
Actually I have a wide background in tech , a lot of it in backend development. I just find that I can have more impact on the businesses growing others (and better than what some of my own managers did in the past. I don't feel like a fraud since I still get involved technically, influence architecture, give feedback on deliverables, etc... Beyond that teams under my leadership every new team/teams have sagnificantlly changed their business impact, motivation and grew into their next roles. I'm happy about my contributions.
How can you “influence architectures” if you don’t code/read code? You mean some hand waiving on meetings and vague advice that makes you feel smart and important?
There should be a symbol on blind to differentiate managers. Otherwise you can accidentally take them for fellow workers.
It looks like you had bad experience with managers, I hope you will get to a good one eventually.
No I had good managers. Quite often they were nice people, often very good engineers. It’s just it’s bullshit role.
This 👆🏼
If managers are as _bullshit_ as some suggested, they should go start a company without managers. They would have immediate competitive advantage and bound for success if there is any truth to that. But they don't. 🗣️🗣️🗣️
Were you IC before becoming a manager? Did you ever regret this move?
Yes I was IC, started from design and front end, moved to backend and later became a team lead and then a manager, I didn't regret the move yet, also don't think I will.
TC?
Added to description thanks for the reminder