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Apr 9, 2018 96 Comments

How is intel as a company for software engineers? Is it in the same league as the Big 4 or faang such as google, amazon etc? Also how is the compensation and difficulty of interviews? Im a sde 2 at Amazon with a TC of 200k. I live in phoenix arizona area and here Intel has a very big office in chandler(suburb of phoenix). So ive recently been wondering if i want to switch to a different tech company in future if Intel would be a good choice? Will intel match my pay of Amazon or should i expect a pay cut in salary?

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  • Intel / Engpleb
    Sux. Stay away. Although if you're Indian, good at politics and ass kissing you could climb the corporate ladder and earn money.

    Otherwise you'll be miserable like most of us. Low pay, low rsu, low raises, low bonuses, low enthusiasm, low relevance no matter how skilled you are.
    Apr 9, 201815
    • Intel Dhcjigf
      If you probably would work hard like Indians do, you would have less to complain. If you want to do well, stop cribbing. Either GTFO or if you are staying, STFU and stop discouraging others. It’s people like you who are making the environment toxic. Stop this racism.
      Apr 14, 2018
    • Intel / Engpleb
      Another butthurt Indian.

      Kid, sit down and repeat after me:
      Working hard and reward have no correlation here.
      Working hard and being Indian have no correlation.
      Working hard and being effective are not the same thing.

      Now don't let me discourage you. Keep up the good work ! Make your boss proud !
      Apr 14, 2018
    • Intel fwDf64
      I am not a racist. Indians are racists inside Intel. Indian Inside!
      Apr 14, 2018
    • Intel Dhcjigf
      Here’s the thing. You need to be smart to make your hard work count. If you are dumb enough to be working hard at intel, focusing on things that will not take you anywhere, you will probably be doing the exact same thing in some other company. The difference would be that you would be kicked out way sooner. So, instead of asking people to GTFO, or saying how it sucks, or calling others butthurt, spend some time in figuring out what you can do differently. The attitude makes a lot of difference. And yes, if you say offensive things to Indians, you will get it back. Everyone is aware of what quality the “non-Indians” bring to teams. It’s terrible to generalize. And then trying to support racism with weird reasons is worse.
      Apr 14, 2018
    • Intel / Engpleb
      The difference is that other companies value hands on engineering over bullshit. By bullshit I mean filling your time with useless meetings and calls, talking about what should be done but not doing it, pushing work that you should be doing on others, making presentations to upper management but not executing any of it, talking to others about things you don't understand, promising great results knowing they are not true. This is what working smart means at Intel and it isn't ok and it's not helping anyone. Therefore people with self respect have no desire to do it.

      "Work hard like Indians do", "it's terrible to generalize". Will you make up your mind ?
      Apr 14, 2018
    • Apple Qqejfnb
      Its gotten to the point that asking for a meritocracy is too much to ask for. That is how fucked up it is.
      Apr 14, 2018
    • Amazon bPRG82
      OP
      Indian inside! Rofl! Thats the funniest thing i have heard on blind. 😂
      Apr 14, 2018
    • Intel Qplux
      In my team, there are a couple of hardworking Indians, who never speak a lot in meetings, and never claim half the credit for the work they do. There’s an American, who just talks at meetings and I’ve hardly seen him actually deliver something real. Just because this American speaks a lot, he got multiple recognitions and a promo.

      Ps. I’m from Europe, and this was my observation.
      Apr 16, 2018
    • Intel fwDf64
      This is exactly what I observed at Intel.
      Apr 16, 2018
    • Intel baobao1
      I have observed that ass kissing and paper pushing gets you to the top. But this nature is the key. It is regardless of the race - Indians or white Americans.
      SMH.
      Apr 5
  • Intel Ywhrhdid36
    Intel internally is stuck in the 90s tech and process wise. Do not expect to work on anything new, modern or groundbreaking software wise. Do not expect good raises or promotions. Do not even expect good w/l balance, as that is no longer a given for Intel anymore in my experience.

    Pay is shit, projects are shit, they are desperate to survive, so they are cutting, merging and chopping anything they can, which has made the moral of all employees go through the floor and all the good employees leave to be valued better elsewhere. All that’s left at Intel are people who can’t find a better job outside and URMs who couldn’t make it in/into FANG.

    Stay far away.

    Working for Intel was the worst mistake of my professional career.
    Apr 9, 201812
    • Intel / EngDJ Bieber
      @Pleb, which team is doing interesting project? Intel Research??
      Apr 10, 2018
    • Intel / Engpleb
      I don't know what research is doing but engineering-wise all the projects that were killed like VR & maker looked interesting. I'm sure the people working on them learned a lot. Other interesting things: RealSense, Nervana, MobilEye, drones, I read around here about ADAS. I'm sure there is more that I don't know about.
      Apr 10, 2018
    • Intel / Productpaperclips
      All the good things were killed off when ACT started. I was willing to deal with the low pay as a technical program manager knowing I had fun opportunities to work with in other departments. Now I am expected to stay squarely in my role. My manager doesn't support my career development. I've had to seek out resources in other departments to get the direction and support my manager has been trained to provide.

      As a company it is not inspiring, is stodgy, and is severely messing with morale. There have been seemingly arbitrary decisions to gut our IT department, which has left us with the same roadmap projects and no resources to help us get things done on schedule.

      I have an interview tomorrow with Nike. Assuming I'm hired, I stand to earn 35k more than what I earn now.
      Apr 12, 2018
    • Intel / Engpleb
      So the next carrer step after Intel is to make shoes ? That sucks man. The future looks bleak...
      Apr 12, 2018
    • Intel / Productpaperclips
      Nope, not making shoes.
      Technical PM for business applications. It's a contract role for a year long project. 80% chance it will turn into a permanent role. Even with paying for COBRA from Intel, I will earn substantially more than I ever could at Intel if I stay there over the next few years. Going from juggling ten project tracks to just a few.
      Apr 13, 2018
    • Intel 🍩boy
      Good on you paperclips, good luck with your interview (not trolling).
      Apr 14, 2018
    • Intel / Productpaperclips
      Thanks donut boy! I got the job! It's a year long server migration project. My manager is also a Transition Manager. Apparently Nike takes those roles very seriously. They are used often in infrastructure projects. Intel doesn't use us often. We are often an afterthought.

      I start April 30! Even after COBRA and taxes I will take home 20% more than what I earn now. Three years ago I became the breadwinner for my family. My husband had to close his business because he lost most of his vision to glaucoma. The fact that I'm earning $120k not long after making that switch is leaving me feeling mighty proud of myself, and hopefully sharing hope with others enduring hardship.
      Apr 18, 2018
    • Intel / Engpleb
      Congrats ! Thanks for sharing your story and best of luck ! It's very rare that people come back here after they jump ship. It's inspiring to see people making big progress after Intel. I dream of when that day comes for me :)
      Apr 18, 2018
    • Intel Ywhrhdid36
      Glad you got the role and got out paperclips! Welcome to the ranks of us that have left and found it better on the other side!

      Every single person I knew that was hired at Intel has now left or is currently interviewing elsewhere to leave.. Just wait until the stock market catches wind of how bad things are for employees and engineers at Intel...
      Apr 22, 2018
    • Intel zprto
      Intel Mobileeye only hires the best of the best in Israel. Good luck finding an Intel ADG (Autonomous Driving Group) job in the USA.
      Jul 24, 2018
  • Intel fwDf64
    Not recommended.
    Apr 9, 20180
  • Intel / EngLitecoin
    Avoid completely.
    Apr 9, 20180
  • Facebook Blink-182
    Intel doesn’t pay nearly as wel as google or fb. Not sure about amazon. I had a pretty awful experience there
    Apr 9, 20180
  • Cisco Beeping
    If you are a software engineer stay away from Intel
    Apr 9, 20180
  • Intel sillycon
    OP, how many years exp in sw do you have?
    Apr 9, 201810
    • Amazon bPRG82
      OP
      7 years
      Apr 9, 2018
    • Amazon bPRG82
      OP
      Will be 8 years in aug this year
      Apr 9, 2018
    • Intel / Engpleb
      Just like me. My TC is about 120k in SC. How's does it sound ?
      Apr 9, 2018
    • Amazon bPRG82
      OP
      Sc? Wheres that?
      Apr 9, 2018
    • Amazon bPRG82
      OP
      Santa clara, CA?
      Apr 9, 2018
    • Intel sillycon
      Then you should be able to bank 110k base, 8-10k rsu annually, 15k bonus ... my guess
      Apr 9, 2018
    • Intel / Engpleb
      Yes, Santa Clara, California, USA, Planet Earth, Milky Way, Universe, Multiverse, Simulation.
      Apr 9, 2018
    • Amazon bPRG82
      OP
      Really? In SC a tc of 120k is low right? I was in chicago before and my tc was 110 k at motorola
      Apr 9, 2018
    • Intel sillycon
      If you accept 120k in Bay, you deserve the crappy servitude life you'll be living
      Apr 9, 2018
    • Intel / Engpleb
      Are you also locked in place by the visa ?
      Apr 14, 2018
  • Intel / Other
    goldieLock

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    goldieLockmore
    Intel is the best place to be if you are around 60. Many old timers around this age have already retired on payroll. Join if you are done with your career, but would like a paycheck for a few more years. In any other case, RUN!
    Apr 10, 20180
  • Intel yyuhj
    OP here's the deal. Like I mentioned earlier you can definitely get your pay matched at G8. At G9..... Definitely will exceed your current pay. You may or may not be able to negotiate a G9. Will depend on your cross group impacts at Amazon. That being said, the above posters are also right when it comes to Intel software. Because we are not software centric, I believe we have a lot to learn. My personal opinion about the management is not so pessimistic as the most posters above. I am an Intel bull and current management is trying to get us less dependent on silicon.... But how well they execute is TBD. Intel will not be an automatic win for you, however there are plenty of career wins to be had here. Good luck.
    Apr 10, 20183
    • Amazon bPRG82
      OP
      Hi, thanks for the response. Is g8/g9 engineering levels or are they management positions? To be honest not working on the latest and cutting edge high level languages is not a deal broker for me. On the other hand im very interested in processors and hardware interactions through software which means assembly, C, Operating systems and any low level embedded systems programming. The only issue i have is i have only done C, assembly etc either as a course project in university or as a hobby. So ive no professional experience. And secondly when i transititon from amazon to intel i dont want a pay cut
      Apr 10, 2018
    • Intel sillycon
      Gr8/9 is for both engineering and mamagement. What type of sw work is hiring at Intel Arizona?
      Apr 10, 2018
    • Intel / EngSamaritan
      G8/9 can be either engineer or manger, Intel doesn’t have separate grade level for engineers/managers. Average TC is about 180-190k for G8, 220-230k for G9, so if you don’t want pay cut, you will be aiming at high-end G8 or low-end/mid G9. That said, Intel is still an awful place for SW engineers. If you’re truly interested in low-level software programming, why not move to Amazon Lab126? x86 is going nowhere, ARM is the king. Besides, I heard promotion to SDE III at Lab126 is much easier than Amazon.
      Apr 10, 2018
  • Amazon AmzzSeattl
    Avoid!!! I came from there before Amazon. You are at Amazon now, stay out or hit another company besides Intel.
    Apr 9, 20182
    • Amazon bPRG82
      OP
      Are u from AZ?
      Apr 9, 2018
    • Amazon AmzzSeattl
      No. Was in Santa Clara. Intel is not a place to grow and work on cool things. It truly is a step backwards.
      Apr 9, 2018
  • Intel zprto
    I know several SWE who left Intel for Amazon from both Intel Santa Clara and Intel Hillsboro. If they survive @ Amazon 4 years they will have TRIPLED their Intel pay. So far the ones I personally know are still there @ Amazon (more than 2 years) and quite happy.
    Jul 24, 20184
    • Intel FANGirl
      Wow someone's been on a necromancing tear today. I remember this thread like it was yesterday. You should dig up some of Acthub's posts, those were good for a laugh. Too bad he isn't around anymore, would have loved to see his take on BK's defenestration and the 50th sh*ttiversary.
      Jul 24, 2018
    • Intel zprto
      Well there are a few at Intel who are in denial about Intel's severely uncompetitive pay - I'm just trying to dispel the bullshit. Intel has some strengths as an employer but pay is not one of them. Remember we strive for the 65th percentile in compensation.
      Jul 24, 2018
    • Intel FANGirl
      True, but this is probably a battle not worth fighting anymore. You and I and many others know the truth. Spend your time on leetcoding to gtfo and join goldieLock and IntelAlum and many others. See you on the other side. The Itanic is sinking but it will take 5-10 years more to capsize.
      Jul 24, 2018
    • Intel zprto
      Girlfriend you and I both be preppin to GTFO. And we'll make it happen - not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.
      Jul 24, 2018
  • Pay is dependent on level. For example in my case Intel beat offers from Apple and Facebook by at least 100k total comp. Intel is a HW company first and foremost however it's also a transitional company looking to change how they act. Graphics SW org for one is redefining how the execute and are refocusing on user delight. This leads to a bit of chaos however, through chaos comes opportunity. Having worked at a few of the FAANG companies, Intel has its problems but so do the rest. Find the company culture that works for you and stay as long as is right for you.
    Aug 15, 20182
    • Intel guujk
      Wow! Intel beat Faang offers by 100k? Are you an executive?
      Aug 15, 2018
    • Intel YahmoBdare
      This must be Jim Keller. Hi Jim!
      Aug 15, 2018
  • Amazon bPRG82
    OP
    Really? Can you guys give more info
    Apr 9, 20182
    • Intel / EngLitecoin
      If you want to take a 50% pay cut, come to Intel.
      Apr 9, 2018
    • Intel / Eng
      PCIexpress

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      ^ so true
      Apr 10, 2018
  • Intel intelbb
    It’s a trade off. Lower Tcomp, better work/life balance than FANG, etc. Depends on what your goals are.
    Apr 9, 20180
  • Intel / EngSamaritan
    Intel is a miserable place for software engineers; I have seen many engineers move from Intel to Amazon, none on the opposite direction.
    Apr 10, 20181
    • Intel zprto
      ^^^Me too
      Jul 24, 2018
  • Intel sillycon
    Come to Intel please. If this chip manufacturing thing doesnt work out for us we're going to need to fall back on some sw skills. Plus, all our internal sw bites chode so we need some people better than the FANG rejects who had to come to intel out of school
    Apr 9, 20180
  • Intel chik-fil-b
    Hahahahahahahahahaha...no.
    Apr 10, 20184
    • Amazon bPRG82
      OP
      Lol whats so funny
      Apr 11, 2018
    • Intel chik-fil-b
      "Is it in the same league as the Big 4 or faang such as google, amazon etc?"
      Apr 11, 2018
    • Intel 🍩boy
      Honestly, this was a troll post for ppl to shit on Intel. And it succeeded. That sentence was a dead giveaway.
      Apr 11, 2018
    • Amazon bPRG82
      OP
      No its not a troll post. Im genuinely interested in knowing about intel as a prospective employer as where i live apart from amazon intel is the only big brand tech company. Asking if intel is in the same league as big 4 was also not trolling as i have personally thought of intel to be a big brand of significance importance in the tech world and well known across the world. I didnt ask if any random irrelevant company is comparable to big 4. Intel carries a lot of prestige with its name
      Apr 14, 2018
  • Google Lenet
    Man, how could you compare Intel with FANG?! Stay away from that shit hole, I really regret not quitting Intel earlier, wasted my life there
    Feb 220
  • Intel / Other
    bulang

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    bulangmore
    Run!
    Aug 15, 20180
  • Intel fwDf64
    Never come to Intel seriously
    Apr 9, 20180
  • Intel oVbR04
    Stay away
    Intel is fraud
    Apr 11, 20181
    • Intel sillycon
      No 10nm jabs please
      Apr 11, 2018
  • Intel 🍩boy
    🚷☢☣❌❎🆖️⁉️🇰🇵
    Apr 10, 20181
    • Amazon / EngBezos Sama
      You'll get more respect if your skill is learnt from DPPK
      Apr 30, 2018
  • Intel yyuhj
    What's your Amazon pay OP? Intel does pay well for higher levels.
    Apr 9, 20181
    • Amazon bPRG82
      OP
      Wrote in the original post around 200k+
      Apr 9, 2018
  • Amazon Rod11
    Lol
    Aug 15, 20180
  • Intel / EngfireBK
    Intel is terrible. Stay away.
    Apr 10, 20180
  • Intel yyuhj
    You can make that for G8 plus.
    Apr 9, 20180
  • The pay sucks
    Apr 9, 20180
  • Cisco NHoI41
    Going from Amazon to Intel seems like a step down, unless you’re getting a much bigger title/leadership role.

    As a lateral move, I can’t think of any reason to do it besides a need for better work/life balance.
    Apr 9, 20180
  • Intel sillycon
    OP, how many yoe? Not sure what sde2 translates to for Intel grade
    Aug 18, 20181
  • Amazon Rczzz
    How are you affording new vistas and working intel if you aint making bank
    Aug 17, 20181
    • Intel sillycon
      Cause we're still below tree fiddy TC. Bank only starts above that line.
      Aug 17, 2018
  • Intel glVL16
    Im
    Feb 50
  • Amazon Rod11
    Nobody even at fang makes tree fiddy unless ur in bay are where tree fiddy is more like 200k elsewhere
    Aug 17, 20180
  • Amazon Rczzz
    It must be minimum 100k cause all these guys sending their kids to private new vistas school
    Aug 17, 20180
  • Amazon Rczzz
    Can some inte people actually comment on tc
    Aug 17, 20180
  • Intel Stormy_D
    Software engineer TC at Intel is below FAANG, so if that's a big deal you may want to reconsider.

    Someone mentioned work life balance was better, that depends on the org you are placed in. Some orgs are a lot better for WLB than others.

    Nepotism was also mentioned and from my experience it's pretty true. Your performance reviews are heavily dictated by how well you played the game the previous year. But it's not much different than any other corporate America job.

    At the end of the day Intel is an old company and it operates like one.
    Apr 14, 20180

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