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Interviewing above level

Google Eleventy
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Any tips or strategies for getting offers above current level? Recruiters at big $N seem to always ask current level - any successes in redirecting conversation to desired leveling? Recruiters usually say “it’s strictly about interview performance,” but asking my current level indicates otherwise.

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  • Cruise Automation Masayoshi
    As of January 1st, 2018 recruiters in California, Massachusetts, New York and other states can not legally ask you for your current compensation.

    So this question from the recruiter is often times how the comp conversation starts. You don’t have to state your current level if you have concerns about stating it. My suggestion is to state your expectations are to be interviewed and hired at Level X. Hope that helps!
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    • Verizon zoBr70
      Interesting. Still, question remains how to handle it without appearing as evasive.
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    • Google Eleventy
      OP
      I’ve tried to anchor on interviewing at a particular level — sometimes it works, other times it turns into “we’ll evaluate interview performance” and an L or L+1 offer. Which, to be clear, is probably correct for me.
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    • eBay / Eng
      mDBW53

      eBayEng

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      NVIDIA
      mDBW53more
      Can’t you just lie? There is nothing they can do that is legal that would reveal your current compensation. If they ask for proof just bring up the law.
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    • Joyent / Mgmt
      A Mouse

      JoyentMgmt

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      IBM
      A Mousemore
      Lying would not be good. If they find out, they could fire you.

      Best is to tell them your expectations. If they aren't into you, move on.
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    • Facebook lyfer
      I've clearly stated (and provided advice to my people to say) that I want to reduce biases in my interview and evaluation process, so I don't think my current compensation and level are relevant. Then I follow up clearly with my level and compensation expectations. I note that I'll consider the entire package including depth and scope of work in addition to comp. Hasn't been an issue. Stand up for yourself, don't lie.
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    • Facebook ftdrhe
      lyfer I will try it next time
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  • Facebook liam
    1. There is 99% chance I would get a promo next month. 2. I already have a scheduled interviews with G,F,A,U,L,C,A,B,T companies for L+1 roles
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    • Google Eleventy
      OP
      I’ll have to try #2 out next time I’m in the market - thanks for the tip
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  • Verizon zoBr70
    If you have been with the company for a while, you could justify by saying that my current compensation is suppressed and not correct reflection of my value because I have been with current employer for a while. That's one of the reason I am exploring new opportunities.
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  • Amazon atamzn
    Is OP taking about comp, or just seniority rank? I have similar challenge for seniority rank.
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    • Google Eleventy
      OP
      Seniority rank, yes
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    • Verizon zoBr70
      I would say - burnish your LinkedIn to project yourself as someone senior who can see the bigger picture. Post articles and comment that markets you as worthy of that level. Takes time.. All about marketing these days..
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  • Tableau Zero Cool
    Just say something like I'm expecting a promotion, or I was up for promotion but it didn't go through because of budget, hr, something
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    • Verizon zoBr70
      No one buys that..
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  • New me2you.
    Show rxperience slready performing at higher level.

    Focus on value brought not cost
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