Is Facebook a friendly place to work for foreigners/immigrants?

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Feb 13, 2018 29 Comments

I have an offer from FB as a Product Marketing Manager. Have years of marketing and consulting experiences.

However, as an immigrant who moved to US 5 years ago, I had unpleasant experiences working with an all American team before. Often time, the conversation was just not inclusive and sometimes I couldn't understand the cultural references or jokes people made.

How's the environment like for foreigners/immigrants at FB? Any experiences, positive, negative ones in Product Marketing roles?

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  • Brocade rwang
    This is not a Facebook problem. If you're unaware of cultural/social backgrounds, so be it.
    Feb 13, 2018 2
    • Spring Studio kNSz86
      No, the world is bigger that your personal circle. And a company that has a global culture and includes people from everywhere has a lot of social and competitive advantages. OP, you are not the problem. Hope you find a company that you enjoy.
      Feb 13, 2018
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      Unaware of culture backgrounds has nothing to do with my question. I am super aware of others and mine, hence I asked this question. Admit it or not, culture background has big impact in terms of relationship building with coworkers. Asking these kinds of questions before getting in is actually a smart thing to do.
      Feb 14, 2018
  • Amazon xEon51
    Come at Amazon, most workplace conversations are in Hindi
    Feb 14, 2018 0
  • Google momasearch
    Facebook is not a friendly place as such. So it doesnt matter if you are an immigrant or not. They wont be friendly either way.
    Feb 13, 2018 7
    • Facebook liSf43
      Ironic given how racist and unfriendly google is - it’s this culture that is leading to your downfall
      Feb 14, 2018
    • Facebook awhellno
      It's team specific. At our size, all culture is team culture.
      Feb 14, 2018
    • Google momasearch
      Used to work in MPK14. I miss Naan Stop and Lightening Bolt; dont miss the unfriendly folks that I used to work with.
      Feb 14, 2018
    • Facebook
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      People are the big reason I’m at and stay at facebook. Lots of folks with I work with are immigrants, and I work with several teams not even based on the US.
      Feb 16, 2018
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      That said, I think my favorite teams have been those that emphasize work over bonding / socializing / culture stuff. They’ve wound up being the ones I’ve made the strongest and lasting connections with.

      I’ve never been one to want to do group lunches or trips to the sweet stop with work friends. I’d rather bond over being productive.
      Feb 16, 2018
  • Salesforce Negev54
    Idk why would you even ask such a question? Why can’t you put in some effort to learn local culture, sports etc. so that you can participate in those conversations? Why is it so hard? Why people always want the world to change for them? Americans in the Bay Area are very open to learning other cultures, so why can’t you make effort?
    P.s I am an immigrant.
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      Did I mention anything about not making effort? Not sure why you made that assumption. If you are truly an immigrant, then you know ur upbringing and culture is deeply rooted and hard to change. How can you make an effort when people were chatting about a childhood book they read that is only available in the America or how fun high school life is, which frat house they belong to when you were not born and raised here? Don't make assumption about people asking question as not making effort. The fact that I am here and speaking English, learning American business manner is a huge effort.
      Feb 14, 2018
    • Amazon yoville
      Thank you Salesforce. I 100% agree. Some people (not necessarily OP) want to work and live in the US and reap all the benefits and not make any kind of effort to learn or grow, except for with respect to the hand that feeds. Americans can't be expected to walk on eggshells and not discuss whatever they consider culture because someone new is offended.
      Feb 18, 2018
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      I would agree on this. For an immigrant to find a diverse and inclusive work environment doesn't equate to Americans walking on eggshells. Think of it from the perspective of Americans working in Japan. There are almost no Americans who will want to work at a all Japanese company in Tokyo, for career progression, relationship building and belonging reasons. To put it in simplistic term, no one wants to be the ONLY foreigner in a foreign country at ur team. Not sure what you meant by not making effort to learn and grow for some immigrants. For me, I make effort to understand American culture (or any other country's culture), embrace and see the merit of it. But this can only be done to an extent because I didn't grow up here. When very nuanced topics came up (the 70's music, Boy Scout, old movie stars), I just simply can't engage and as a result, won't be able to feel that strong of a belonging to the team.
      Feb 18, 2018
    • Salesforce Jhvuic
      What’s the big deal if you can’t relate to those nuanced topics? Nobody is forcing you to stay here. If it’s that big of an issue, either start your own company and hire likeminded people, or you can go back to your home country.
      It’s Bay Area! It can’t get more diverse than that in this country. Try living in Midwest and you will find out.
      Feb 18, 2018
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      Trying working at a place as the only foreigner. You will find it.
      Feb 18, 2018
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    • Facebook Model
      Way too much koolaid.
      Feb 14, 2018
  • Facebook liSf43
    Very friendly to immigrants , majority of company is non-US unlike the racists over at Google
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      Haha. Is this true and what team are you referring to? Talking about FB not google of course. :)
      Feb 14, 2018
    • Facebook Psyops
      It's probably close to the truth. My eng team is 95% non-US.
      Feb 14, 2018
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      OP
      What about non-engineering team? I will be in Product Marketing team.
      Feb 14, 2018
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    In engineering most of us are first generation immigrants! But that is the norm in many big tech
    Feb 13, 2018 0
  • Square / Eng nom🍔
    I worked at FB eng. Vast majority of my extended team (15 out of 20) weren't US citizens. If anything, you should be careful not to end up in a team that's 100% Chinese immigrants (assuming you're not Chinese of course), there's a higher chance of that than a mostly American team, at least in eng
    Feb 14, 2018 0
  • Facebook sum41pwd
    Our PMM teams are quite diverse, maybe not as much as tech, but you’ll be working closely with the tech side too. It’s the most open and embracing culture I’ve seen. I’m wearing a traditional clothes today to work to celebrate/rep Wakanda ✊🏿.
    Feb 14, 2018 0
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    Thanks all! This is really helpful and informative. Appreciate the insights!
    Feb 14, 2018 0
  • Citrix Systems XDOa40
    If anything, American are the minority now in many parts of bay area. They should be the one worry about this.
    Feb 14, 2018 0
  • Facebook / Other DAon15
    I’ve been in 3 teams so far, all of them majority foreigners so I actually felt surrounded by people with same issues, concerns etc. Americans at Fb were always very aware and open to other’s culture in my experience.
    Feb 13, 2018 0