Just finished interviewing at 6 top companies..

Bloomberg TopDogg
Jul 31 534 Comments

... and was unanimously rejected by all. Some facts:

- not that it matters apparently, but top (more like *the* top) CS school grad BS + MS with 9yoe and serious impactful projects at cutrent job that I can discuss for hours
- solved and coded fully over 90% of all coding problems and had something very solid for the remaining 10%
- at the beginning of each round, I asked every interviewer how many problems we were going to be tackling, so I know for a fact that I didn’t run out of time and miss any problems

What are some things that could have gone wrong? I’m starting to think I’m fundamentally unlikeable or have some serious blind spots regarding my communication skills and the way I am perceived.

TC: 215 YOE: 9

What a joke.

P.S. For what it’s worth I’ve been fairly successful at dating, so I’m not like a social outcast or anything.

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TOP 534 Comments
  • Facebook GFS_Queen
    I’m actually glad too tech companies are filtering out douchebags with no self awareness like you. Tech recruiting is not all broken.
    Aug 3 7
    • Spotify / Eng VnEB34
      Not wrong.
      Aug 3
    • Facebook MobbDeep
      Former tinder date spotted
      Aug 3
    • Cruise Automation fud
      23 yo Facebook bro spotted
      Aug 3
    • Microsoft meanwhile
      It seems like Facebook hiring is broken then. You literally mentioned self awareness lol
      Aug 3
    • Facebook GFS_Queen
      If you actually read his post and don’t think he is a douche, then you are just like him.
      Aug 4
  • Apple jjdht!:
    Odor problems?
    Jul 31 15
    • Deloitte uAag27
      One of the issues is the shortage of American born STEM talent. And due to that we had to start hiring the best candidates with the skillset required from abroad. That’s a snowball that started in the end of the 90’s and now reached critical mass.
      That’s the elephant in the room now, nobody talks about it, but it is clearly there. Some areas in consulting are completely taken and they do have a strong preference to hire their own unless they come across a superstar. It’s happening all over tech, all under the banner of D&I we are just replacing one dominant group with another.
      And this will never happen in Europe, there is no shortage in local STEM talent there.
      Aug 4
    • Daimler merkletree
      @uAag27 even though I'd like to agree, your statement doesn't even remotely hold true for e.g. Germany. There's a HUGE shortage of Software Engineers and no way to fill the open positions, not even with enough money. A lot of Europeans are going to the US because it's easy doable, better financial prospects with the crazy bay area salaries and just enjoy themselves. Why work for 60k€ if you can work for 250k$ USD? Yeah CoL is higher here but no way to justify this gap...
      Aug 5
    • New / Product Dqjs81
      @uAag27 apparently you haven’t lived in Europe before. It’s impossible to fill in tech roles here (at least Germany). Any country that attracts serious VC money is facing shortage in tech talent except China & India.
      Aug 6
    • Deloitte uAag27
      I didn’t think brain drain was an issue in Europe, my apologies.
      Aug 6
    • Credit Karma
      han

      Credit Karma

      PRE
      Apple
      hanmore
      Ok are you guys talking about Europe street in India?? Yah u r right no shortage of STEM talent :p
      Aug 7
  • Facebook no0bb
    You’ve missed the most important part. You’d rather describe the coding problems with your solution then blinders can give some insights.
    Jul 31 12
    • Facebook / Other
      Ataturk

      Facebook Other

      BIO
      unemployed
      Ataturkmore
      Topdogg, don't throw a bone to these hungry dogs. They're clearly bereft of ethics and are the assholes that are gaming the system.
      Aug 3
    • Netflix Ryanboss
      Never heard of an NDA for interviews!
      Aug 3
    • T-Mobile fun oh
      @facebook: don't say that about leetcode please
      Aug 3
    • just wondering... were there any questions which you could not find on leetcode ??
      Aug 3
    • Microsoft roaming
      You don’t need to tell the company name. But you can still tell one or two questions from 2 different companies/rounds and discuss how you solved it. Let’s see what went wrong
      Aug 4
  • Microsoft meanwhile
    I have hard time understanding why so many people are judging quickly that this guy is a douche etc. He was just being transparent about himself. What I find instead is how many of engineers in Blind are jerks and easily judging people as if they know it all based on a single post which could have been interpreted in a different way. Folks, this is the problem in our interview process. The interviewers themselves don’t have any skills to evaluate others; hence, easily judge others as arrogant etc. They end up hiring fellow jerks and start complaining how many folks in their companies are tools. Problem is you (and me of course).
    Aug 3 6
    • NewRelic / Eng O_o o_0
      Microsoft's interviews may not measure those things but all of the big tech companies? 🤔
      Aug 3
    • Microsoft meanwhile
      I will admit Microsoft has its own problem in hiring. We hire in each team. That means interview difficulty varies and if you are not like others in the team, there is low chance.

      For example, because we have a huge dev center in India, and also hire many contractors as FTE (Wipro, Infosys etc), we have many teams that are skewed to a single demographic. It is Indians in Azure and Chinese in Bing org. Some orgs have more Eastern Europeans. It is divided.

      But it is also a good place to observe very high percentage of people have implicit bias towards someone with similar culture and background. So when someone says that guy is arrogant, it many times is because of cultural difference. I don’t belong to any major groups in tech and that gives me a chance to hear Chinese guys complaining about Indians, Indians complaining about Chinese, etc for some trivial things and many times due to misunderstandings or lack of encounters with different culture.

      If you don’t recognize or are conscious about this, it is easy to end up favoring the people from the same culture without you knowing it.
      Aug 3
    • Apple / Creative
      artdirctr

      Apple Creative

      BIO
      Art director and designer for marketing and brand.
      artdirctrmore
      I posted a question about salary once and got a nasty post about my title... I was the categorized negatively and the thread went on with a condescending tone. Yes, I agree, there must be many jerks on Blind. And, by the way, why is blind mostly engineers and technical people? Aren’t there other type of professionals that work at tech companies that would like to discuss things on Blind?
      Aug 4
    • Microsoft leetlleet
      Engineers don’t have many friends, much in social life, hobbies or dating partners :) it is also due to the nature of tech interview process particularly software engineering. You don’t see many hardware engineers here. Recent increase of compensation and the fact that you can have it by studying gives strong motivation for people to join. It also has mostly immigrants because they lack information and find sources. This is a good platform for them (well me).
      Aug 4
    • ConEdison Solutions / IT
      Unravelled

      ConEdison Solutions IT

      PRE
      Amazon
      BIO
      Over 10 Years Post Graduate Experience, Cyber Security. Information Security. Project Manager. Scrum Master. Product Manager. ITIL V3
      Unravelledmore
      That's very correct leetllleet. I'd attended interviews to the point that I started loosing faith in myself and physical appearance. There was a time I had to start asking the interviewers for a feedback for my performance at the end of the interview. At other times, when got a rejection notice, I ask where I erred. Some are kind enough for feed backs while others are just lazy liars. At the end of the day, these feedback helped me and today, I am glad that this job needed just one interview and a Skype interview. No video, no in-person or no several interviews. I didn't do well as per my own judgement but the company accepted me and the highest pay I have ever bargained for.
      Aug 14
  • Google Larry Pаge
    What kind of person asks how many coding questions there will be to their interviewer at the start of the interview? It's supposed to start off with a bit of banter and resume talk.
    Jul 31 10
    • Charter dwayneWayn
      Airbnb, In this world where someone just said it's a red flag
      Aug 3
    • Airbnb JasonSobel
      I disagree and I’m pretty sure most of my coworkers would as well. A red flag is something like saying the N word. Not chatting about interview structure
      Aug 3
    • Amazon mymind
      At Amazon we expect people to work with some (increasing) amounts of ambiguity. Seems like you are afraid of that
      Aug 3
    • Charter dwayneWayn
      I disagree with you Airbnb. If someone thinks it's weird than some people think it's weird.

      This is work, not a controlled closed system school project. Weirdo.
      Aug 3
    • Charter dwayneWayn
      If someone needed fixed parameters like that I would only hire them for lower paid non-critical work. And keep them from poisoning true professionals.
      Aug 3
  • Apple zcsq
    If you are white male you need to get everything 100% correct optimal solution no exceptions. Your 10% was too much in this case. You won’t get a leg up like the others...
    Jul 31 27
    • Facebook / Eng e999
      I hate to break it for you @lkj630, but given two identically performing candidates Facebook will choose underrepresented one. The diversity push is real.

      The studies you are talking about are irrelevant for FAANG/valley because of extensive focus on that in training.

      Doesn’t mean white men are not hired though.
      Aug 4
    • Facebook / Eng lkj630
      E999, lolwat, Facebook will just hire both of them 🙄
      Have you actually sat in on candidate debriefs?
      Aug 4
    • Facebook / Eng e999
      Yes I have. Longer than you.
      Aug 4
    • Facebook / Eng lkj630
      That. I doubt.
      Aug 4
    • Facebook / Eng e999
      You have the right to doubt and tell nonsense on Blind. Nothing you say can or will be used against you because Blind.
      Aug 4
  • Microsoft bayareasof
    Did you have chinese interview you a lot? I know for a fact you have to be chinese for another chinese to give you a thumbs up. Discriminatory but this is the sad reality in the valley. I have a 100% rejection rate from Chinese and 100% approval rating from white and Indians.
    Aug 3 15
    • Amazon dXdJ14
      When I interviewed with LinkedIn, more than half of the interviewers are Indian or Caucasian
      Aug 3
    • Microsoft / Eng CryptoNeo
      I m an Indian and I usually don't hire Indians. 🙂. Not because they are Indian. It's because most of the Indian engineers I have interviewed are miserable.
      Aug 3
    • Nutanix numero
      Ironically, the MS guy CEO is Indian
      Aug 3
    • Microsoft bayareasof
      So does Google's. It doent prevent chinese from harassing others.
      Aug 4
    • Microsoft / Eng iCan
      may be you have a bias against the chinese that makes you behave awkward on an interview or just amplifies whatever little bias they have against you.
      Sep 1
  • Microsoft micrusade
    Sad.
    Jul 31 2
    • Bloomberg TopDogg
      OP
      Thank you. My Microsoft interview is coming up in August. 😊
      Jul 31
    • AQR lmnoop
      Is that the one day onsite? Azure or XBox?
      Aug 3
  • NVIDIA gruse
    What’s the top CS school?
    Jul 31 23
    • ForRent / Eng HpDp30
      It's Stanford for sure.
      Aug 3
    • Compass / Eng
      cnap

      Compass Eng

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      Comcast
      cnapmore
      I feel like only CMU feel the need to label itself the TOP CS school. Stanford and MIT are good at so many things that they don't feel the need to mention how good their CS program is. The undergrad admissions bar is also way higher
      Aug 4
    • Amazon / Eng
      weeeeeeee

      Amazon Eng

      BIO
      AWS
      weeeeeeeemore
      CMU has a pretty good business school, no?
      Aug 4
    • Compass / Eng
      cnap

      Compass Eng

      PRE
      Comcast
      cnapmore
      I think a MBA from anywhere outside of top 5 (maybe even top 3) business school is pretty useless.
      Aug 4
    • Microsoft Angela32
      Brown
      Aug 5
  • IMDB キル
    You sound like you're full of yourself even in writing. I can't even imagine how much of a prick you must be to work with.
    Aug 3 4
    • Amazon / Creative dadaq
      This. Learn to hide your personality at least during the interview
      Aug 3
    • Cerner cymon
      Cut him/her some slack- It took a degree of humility and self awareness to ask this question in the first place
      Aug 3
    • GE lores
      Are you kidding me? Dude/dudette is here asking for advice and self questioning, way to kick them when they are down!
      Aug 3
    • LinkedIn
      djaoebfk63

      LinkedIn

      PRE
      Google, Amazon, 500 Startups, Microsoft
      djaoebfk63more
      Wait what exactly is wrong with the OP's question? He is just seeking advice so what is prideful about his approach?
      Aug 3
  • Google zTnd3s
    after you failed one, did you reflect to see where you went wrong and apply that to the next interview?

    if you did not take the time to go through your mistakes then that could be where you went wrong
    Jul 31 6
    • Google Mr. Glass
      You were arrogant, simple. You need to come off as coachable, not as though you think “the interviewer is an idiot and can’t possibly teach me a single thing.”
      Aug 3
    • Facebook Dumble
      This is absolutely true. We rejected awesome people for stupid reasons. Being seen as arrogant is usually a reason. Also having manager issues before or not taking responsibility for failures. I don’t mean this in a bad way but is it possible you did not really nail the questions? Or maybe you made some really simple mistakes.
      Aug 3
    • Google Mr. Glass
      ^ OP isn’t really looking for a reason, given his personality. He’s looking to either vent, or he’s looking for validation that the interviewers and the process is broken. He’ll ignore any insinuation that his attitude is the problem. Denial and conformation bias. Likely indicator of toxicity.
      Aug 4
    • Microsoft sublind
      Dayum, Mr. Glass. You sound a little presumptuous and arrogant yourself. For the record, what race can we attribute that to?
      Aug 4
    • Google Mr. Glass
      Sometimes the truth is bitter. But you can’t just blame it on racism/sexism/*ism.
      Aug 5
  • Google Dr. Seuss
    I can't believe this post has so many negative comments. Op if you are in bay area I am happy to interview you and give you frank feedback. I have had around 70+ interviews now. Dm me if you are interested.
    Aug 3 0
  • Microsoft meanwhile
    May I ask you if you are from Eastern Europe? I hate to generalize but Eastern Europeans can look quite different to others. Cold facial expression, lack of small talk and smile and monotonous tone can make people look like arrogant even though they aren’t. This is fine or even advantageous if the interviewers are from the same culture.

    Another aspect is you may have completed the coding with just ok performance. It is relative and you are competing against the people who spent significant time on the leetcode. They may solve quicker with a lot more to discuss (alternative approaches etc).

    Also, I found from my friends that you shouldn’t go for the top choices first. You start with some companies to practice for and get to build confidence and interview skills. There are very subtle ones only you can know how to improve and the only way is by the real interviews. After interviews, decline the offers and spend some more time to brush up then start going for your top choices. Even then, you would fail most of them. Interviews have a lot of randomness (particularly due to diverse background), and most of the times it is luck.

    You can also try many such as not drinking coffee. For me, coffee makes me agitated and I may look nervous or talking too much.

    Good luck!
    Aug 1 8
    • Intel / Eng Fuu
      Oh ffck.. I didn't even start interviewing and I'm already screwed? :/
      Aug 3
    • Nike / Consultant BCDC
      Intel, knowing that about them, at a minimum don’t let it jar you, and even begin to sense where they find value (less social, more focus on simple yet powerful solutions). There’s lots of research around matching the body language & denemeanor of your interviewers—to an extent though.
      Aug 3
    • Charter dwayneWayn
      Be aware and you can counter the negative stereotypes of being a square head
      Aug 3
    • Nike / Consultant BCDC
      In short, you can set yourself *unbelievably* apart if you have both hard AND soft skills. Think of someone you know (IRL) -regardless of gender/position—that everyone just gravitates toward. Everyone wants to hang out w/ them. That’s charisma. Work on some of these traits! Overcome the stereotype that devs are blockheads & hard to work with. The few devs I’ve seen w/ both these skills get what they want.
      Aug 3
    • Missing the Iron Curtain?
      Aug 3
  • Amazon / Eng AMZNBucks
    Lmao thank God tech companies aren't circle jerking over "top" tech schools anymore when it doesn't really matter
    Aug 3 3
    • Amazon 🗑77
      Yeah we definitely don’t give a shit. Leetcoding For 100 Hours > Top CS School.
      Aug 3
    • Amazon / Eng AMZNBucks
      Well leetcoding is more fair. It evens the playing ground for intelligent people of all backgrounds, rather than just hiring the children of wealthy people who went to expensive top universities. Now a poor kid who could go to a good but cheaper option in their state could still have a chance at top tier jobs

      I'm all for it. Definitely levels things out
      Aug 3
    • Amazon 🗑77
      I love it. Definitely need System Design Prep though too, to clear our bar.
      Aug 3
  • Microsoft 🌲fiddy
    Do you connect with your interviewers? Are you too quiet? Too arrogant? If technical abilities are there, maybe you are an insufferable person that no one wants to work with?
    Jul 31 7
    • Bloomberg / Eng the1
      Honestly you sound pretty arrogant. In fact, everything about this post is.
      Aug 1
    • Uber biyfc545
      Bro, I do interview coaching and can definitely help you get top offers. DM me if you need help
      Aug 3
    • Groupon heystrngr
      Behavioral interviews are tricky - you never know how you are perceived by the interviewer. I made a mistake of telling the truth when they asked me "tell me about a situation when you had a disagreement with someone". They want to listen to good stories so tell them a good story and not the truth.
      Aug 3
    • Uber biyfc545
      I disagree. Interviewing like many other things in life is a skill and can be practiced.
      Aug 3
    • Groupon heystrngr
      I agree with you but if you haven’t practiced then it can go either way
      Aug 9
  • Capital One / Other Dude45
    I find the best tactic to getting a job at any company I want to work at is to not give a shit if I get the position or not. I’m insanely aggressive demanding the max comp, more vacation than they give etc. I also give them a time limit to move me forward in the process or I will drop out myself. You have to truly not give a shit and be willing to tell them to stop wasting your time. They seem to eat that up and it works most of the time for me.

    I’ve offended them with my salary requirements only to have them come begging a couple months later.
    Aug 3 7
    • Capital One / Other Dude45
      I don’t work directly for cap1. Im an advisor.
      Aug 3
    • Facebook / Other
      Ataturk

      Facebook Other

      BIO
      unemployed
      Ataturkmore
      I'm reading .. I don't EVEN work at capital one. Try pulling this shit at FB and Goog and you'll have your resume flushed down the toilet after the recruiter takes a dump on it.
      Aug 3
    • Cruise Automation fud
      Ahahah. That's because so many people like you that are ready to go down in standards just so they are able to tell their friends they work at Facebook.
      Aug 3
    • Intel / Product starlens
      This dude knows what's up. Perfect strategy
      Aug 3
    • New jSdO71
      Yep. It works every single time.
      Aug 3
  • Adobe jjjx12
    "Successful" at dating does not necessarily mean you have a good or even decent personality.

    If you're 6'+ with a decent jaw as a man or are a non-overweight woman, dating will trivially validate you.
    Aug 3 2
    • Google GzUY73
      True
      Aug 3
    • Ripple UoNS08
      Goddamit, that hits too close to home
      Aug 3
  • Amazon xkev80
    If you got rejected by Amazon and you did well on tech, it means you bombed the leadership principles. I have rejected very talented engineers because of their egos. Approach the questions and answers with some humility and it will get a long ways.

    Overconfidence is a red flag
    Aug 3 1
    • Amazon yowsers
      Yup this. Not just amazon but any of these companies. You need to show you are a great leader and that includes having a lot of humility.
      Aug 3
  • NewRelic / Eng O_o o_0
    You're an asshole. It's clear from the post. But so is 95% of Blind. You are just an unlucky asshole that's a little too full of himself.
    Aug 3 3
    • New jFaJ66
      Lol he started boasting his degree like that makes him bigger or deserved. You have to do it in a humble way. Learn how to dumb it down talk more about your work not all your degrees.
      Aug 3
    • Microsoft meanwhile
      Well I didn’t see that. This is actually the reason tech interviews are hard. You have to satisfy the people from different background as engineers are from all over the world. Some will think it as arrogance while others will think it as confidence.
      Aug 3
    • New jFaJ66
      That’s true. But that’s why you have to interview like crazy and find a middle ground. Not everyone will like you. Practice makes perfect think of it as an acting gig (because everyone is acting during interviews). That’s just the way it is. You never know just practice and self analyze✌️ and if you suck at that ask friends find events that do mock interviews etc.
      Aug 3
  • NVIDIA zLUX20
    I'm inferring a lot here but is it possible that you're overconfident and it is coming off in the interviews? Your username is "top dogg" after all. There is an unfortunate psychology to interviewing where the interviewer expects to be seen in the dominant role and if you breach that they might see you differently.

    Try being humble and leave room for just a little doubt in your answers. I've only interviewed at about 15 companies in my career but I've only been turned away once and this is the mindset I walk in with.

    Interviews are tough, don't sweat it too much.
    Aug 3 3
    • ^ Right, re-reading some of this stuff makes me agree.

      For example, being “good at dating” doesn’t mean you’re not overconfident and don’t come across as an asshole.

      Or possibly your design/architecture skills weren’t up to par. You are interviewing for top roles which pay in the 400-600 range after all.
      Aug 3
    • Dell / Eng
      vokX18

      Dell Eng

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      vokX18more
      Maybe top dawg or topless dogg might work better??
      Aug 3
    • Bloomberg / IT MagikMike
      Top Doge
      Aug 4