Layoff Culture

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Jan 4 134 Comments

How often does your company have layoffs and how are the layoffs conducted?

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  • Microsoft Big Pun
    According to Microsoft internal blind there is a layoff every qtr
    Jan 4 20
    • Yelp BGcU44
      In other words, Microsoft loses the poor performers, Amazon just treats everyone like shit so the good performers with options leave. Which is more fucked up?
      Jan 6
    • Microsoft / Ops xTcws78
      Whats inaccurate? This info is on HR. Several top performers have been let go. I saw the invite a co-worker got before they were let go. It did say "exciting opportunities". GM cuts those he feels are a threat to his role. The poor performer wasnt cut.
      Jan 6
    • LinkedIn hipster!
      How is layoff an 'exciting opportunity'? I am curious how that is spun!
      Jan 6
    • Microsoft Dev2.0
      I actually know a lot of smart people that were attempted to be pushed out or left earlier than any of that could happen because Microsoft doesn’t pay much compared to others. I’d say about 20% of the decently intelligent people I’ve worked with remain at Microsoft. Kinda sad
      Jan 6
    • Microsoft vtxh
      Absolute BS! I’m a manager at Microsoft and our guidance from HR is we need to justify and document layoffs. We can’t just layoff people! unless there is a re-org, compliance infrigements or continous underperformance
      Jan 7
    • Microsoft dcTjgfr
      Microsoft has reorgs constantly, so there’s no need to justify. Absolute #1 worst thing about Microsoft is the lack of job security and constant reorgs. I, too, have seen my favorite coworkers leave because they’re sick of the churn.
      Jan 7
    • New b1h
      If MSFT country has no job security, then which big tech comparable company would?
      Jan 7
    • Intuit Merc77
      No company is safe from layoffs or forced into PIP, I’ve seen good people leave Intuit.
      Jan 7
    • Amazon / Biz Dev LITERALLY
      Amazon has layoffs the beginning of each year. Usually for teams that are redundant or no longer relevant (think Fire phone or large organizations merging and cause duplication). Rarely tech roles but sometimes it happens depending which org you're tied to. Typically you're told and then have 2 months to wrap up what you're doing and find another role internally. Most can do this unless you're in a very specialized non tech type of role or on a "development plan" which makes you radioactive. If you don't have another internal offer before the 2 months are up you're gone. At that point you'll get a week of pay for each 6 months you've been an employee and a firm pat on the ass.
      Jan 7
    • Microsoft Azurno
      MSFT manager here. There are layoffs every month to 6 weeks. If you want someone gone you put them in line for the next batch. Keeping it regular instead of big layoffs a couple times per year means we don’t have to report it to the state.
      Jan 10
  • Google SWE5
    Google has never had layoffs, fortunately!
    Jan 6 19
    • Pinterest HMMb23
      Roughly 60% found jobs again within Google. Some of those folks who didn't interviewed and couldn't find a role, some took it as a vacation, some took it as paid time to work on their own start ups to launch after they left.
      Jan 6
    • Tableau hellish
      Google laid off all or most of the recruiters in 2008-9 timeframe, and it really hurt them later because they had to build a new staff.
      Jan 6
    • Airbnb gyrtsxhq
      @Yottobyte There is no legal definition of “layoff.” There are situations that trigger the WARN Act, but you can have a layoff that doesn’t trigger WARN. The WARN Act requires companies to give either 60 days severance or warn employees 60 days prior to being removed from the payroll.
      Jan 6
    • Google / Eng
      bullwinkle

      Google Eng

      BIO
      L5 SWE
      bullwinklemore
      It's hardest in remote offices for people who don't want to relocate.
      Jan 6
    • Cisco Wakeup
      Google had a layoff few years back like 2 -3 yrs back in google fiber
      Jan 7
    • Cisco Wakeup
      You can find this in CA WARN database
      Jan 7
    • Google Yottobyte
      The fiber "layoff" was one of those "you have 3 months, use grow to find a new job or you will be termed" situations.
      Jan 7
    • Airbnb gyrtsxhq
      That’s still a layoff. No quotes around it. A lot of companies allow displaced employees to search internally for a new job.
      Jan 7
    • Cisco Wakeup
      Yottobyte. Even at cisco u get 2 months to find a new role. That is still a layoff. Most companies do give 2 months notice period. That’s pretty much when it shows up on WARN.
      Jan 8
    • Microsoft yfthvttdg
      At MSFT, you can interview for internal jobs too, but it is still called layoff.
      Jan 8
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    • RackWare Dreamlight
      What is the severance package?
      Jan 4
    • Amazon
      Proud_Dem

      Amazon

      BIO
      Yo-yo
      Proud_Demmore
      RIF via phone call really? Is this OCI?
      Jan 4
    • Airbnb fkebeixid
      Does this make you nervous every time you answer the phone then?
      Jan 5
    • Facebook hbdik
      Lol, now he will be 😜
      Jan 6
    • Facebook cMMt64
      Don't pickup the phone! At least not unknown numbers
      Jan 6
    • GitHub goodonya
      Who answers the phone anymore? Do they leave a voicemail?
      Jan 6
    • New / Eng i i i
      What if you miss the meeting? I dont know, sudden case of diarrhea or smth similar
      Jan 7
    • New / Eng i i i
      Thank you for clarifying. I think they are not trying to keep people in the dark just to play mind games, rather prevent stealing of IP, sabotage or workplace violence (if you know in advance you can bring a fire arms)
      Jan 7
  • Cisco / Eng
    DoTheNeedy

    Cisco Eng

    PRE
    Facebook
    DoTheNeedymore
    We hire certain people specifically so they can be laid off.
    Jan 6 3
    • New wGsQ24
      Cisco is at the cutting edge of innovation in laying off
      Jan 6
    • Oracle / Eng
      IRS

      Oracle Eng

      PRE
      Google, Facebook, Instacart, Twitter, Uber, Air Asia, IBM, Cisco
      IRSmore
      You are not alone in that regard.
      Jan 6
    • Amazon / Biz Dev LITERALLY
      Hire the best from the competition at outrageous, can't say no salaries and then lay them off a month later. They could go back where they came from but it would slow your competitors at least. That's innovation!
      Jan 7
  • SpaceX SlaveX420
    When ever the man child, Elon, throughs a temper tantrum because he doesn't get what he wants or spends more money than he realized, we have purges. The timing is unpredictable but frequent.
    Jan 6 4
    • Cisco
      unclechuck

      Cisco

      PRE
      Cisco
      unclechuckmore
      I heard he personally flew up to the Washington office to fire some folks. Any truth to that?
      Jan 6
    • SpaceX SlaveX420
      Washington the state, yes, 9% of the employees got canned because they were not going fast enough for him. Now the remaining 91% will be scared to go faster as well as do the job of those fired.
      Jan 6
    • Cisco
      unclechuck

      Cisco

      PRE
      Cisco
      unclechuckmore
      Damn I'm glad to not be in the space industry anymore
      Jan 6
    • SpaceX SlaveX420
      Looks like Elons shit decisions has led to 10% company wide layoffs this weekend.
      Jan 12
  • Groupon / Sales blt203
    big news out of chicago as cody parkey is laid off after tonight’s showing
    Jan 6 6
    • Qualtrics / Ops
      qualtricdo

      Qualtrics Ops

      BIO
      Came from non tech to tech.
      qualtricdomore
      Ha, if I could +5 I would!
      Jan 6
    • Microsoft Big Pun
      He has a $9mil guaranteed contract tho. So, not so bad.
      Jan 6
    • Qualtrics / Ops
      qualtricdo

      Qualtrics Ops

      BIO
      Came from non tech to tech.
      qualtricdomore
      Only $2.75mil guaranteed next year, so I feel pretty bad for him
      Jan 6
    • Capital One fity scent
      Lol it wasn’t even his fault. The ball was tipped
      Jan 7
    • Amazon / Biz Dev LITERALLY
      He could have kicked it like a normal kicker with more arc and it wouldn't have been tipped. No excuses. He had one F'ing job!
      Jan 7
    • New / HR
      andrewsauc

      New HR

      BIO
      Tech recruiter @indeed
      andrewsaucmore
      Einhorn is Finkle! Laces out!
      Jan 7
  • Caterpillar / Design hmbrwr
    I didn't realize the tech sector was so vicious. At Cat we usually have a massive buyout offer and subsequent layoffs every five to seven years.
    Jan 6 3
    • Intuit / Eng
      j123x

      Intuit Eng

      PRE
      Cisco, Verizon, Oracle
      j123xmore
      You are lucky.
      Jan 6
    • Caterpillar / Design hmbrwr
      Yeah, but when we have them it's usually 10-20% of our workforce. Management doesn't know how to handle growth and we get too fat during "good" times and then go to freak the ef out mode when the slightest blip in economy happen.
      Jan 6
    • Google WordCrimes
      Capital has most of the power right now. Some tech companies are working against unionization like it’s the plague, to further deprive labor of gaining any power.
      Jan 6
  • GE
    Listener7

    GE

    BIO
    Life can be simple or complex!
    Listener7more
    Layoff is the worst decision a company takes. Period
    Jan 6 7
    • GE
      Listener7

      GE

      BIO
      Life can be simple or complex!
      Listener7more
      Well I think I should give one reason, it means the leader or person in driving seat doest not not what they are doing.
      Jan 6
    • Universal Orlando 8675309k
      It normally means they know they want a bonus, but they suck at their job, so, oops, some of you are gone and now I get a check.

      Same diff, tho.
      Jan 6
    • GE
      Listener7

      GE

      BIO
      Life can be simple or complex!
      Listener7more
      Well you are right bro. I wish we have leader should get quarterly/yearly reviews. Something like a democratic setup
      Jan 6
    • Uber lulzCa
      GE started the process of cutting the lowest performing 10% every year
      Jan 6
    • GE fPDS10
      Bottom 10% was a Welchian management style from the 80's and 90's at GE. There is no allowance for bottom 10% on my teams in today's culture at Aviation, although it might encourage some that need the push...
      Jan 7
    • ConocoPhillips GzFG12
      Exxon cuts bottom 10% as well
      Jan 7
    • ExxonMobil WaynKrackr
      Exxon does not. Maybe here and there depending on the group but not in a broad swoop or on a regular basis. We definitely should though. So much dead weight everywhere
      Jan 7
  • IBM VJsX64
    Poor woman I met at IBM got laid off and rehired 3 times. We both (her 4th time) got laid off and she didn't even bother this time.

    I hear the GBS and systems have frequent layoffs (probably ever quarter or ever other quarter) but other BUs get the hammer from time to time.

    I feel bad for the visa and family folks :(
    Jan 6 3
    • Bloomberg / Eng
      Fork()

      Bloomberg Eng

      PRE
      Amazon
      Fork()more
      Layoff and immediate rehiring is a dirty trick management uses to hit quarterly numbers to please wall St, despite probably costing more in the long run.
      Jan 6
    • Cisco / Design
      nasdaq

      Cisco Design

      PRE
      Intel Corporation
      nasdaqmore
      What do you mean? How does laying off and quick rehiring same person please Wall St.? Please elaborate.
      Jan 6
    • Lyft / HR
      TRAPSTAR

      Lyft HR

      PRE
      Startups.co
      TRAPSTARmore
      Something something should be illegal
      Jan 10
  • Netflix enjoylyfe
    Hahahaha! It's every day here... Just that we call it being let go. We don't do mass layoffs, not our style
    Jan 6 1
    • SpaceX SlaveX420
      Mass layoffs cost the company more money in CA if they are not done right. The labor dept has slapped SpaceX for this. Elons solution that year was to fire all of HR.
      Jan 6
  • Intuit / Eng
    j123x

    Intuit Eng

    PRE
    Cisco, Verizon, Oracle
    j123xmore
    When I was with Verizon, they had 13 layoffs (and I was hit on 14th). Its every other month.
    Jan 6 0
  • Mozilla / Eng
    realMoz

    Mozilla Eng

    PRE
    Sony Electronics
    realMozmore
    Check 'are we reorganized yet' website for mozilla layoffs. There are fewer reports since people were mostly laid off. LOL
    Jan 6 1
    • Mozilla / Eng
      realMoz

      Mozilla Eng

      PRE
      Sony Electronics
      realMozmore
      Got 17 reorg back in 2015 due to politics lol
      Jan 7
  • General Motors sBto05
    GM's are so infrequent that it makes national news when it happens. We're about to take a 25% haircut.
    Jan 6 0
  • General Motors jPph07
    Talking to the old timers at GM, we did it everytime the economy sucked. This time we are doing it proactively. I guess economy is going to suck soon.
    Jan 6 0
  • American Airlines Pug Darker
    We have one big rolling layoff that lasts all year long.
    Jan 7 0
  • SAP upjm60
    No layoff at SAP
    Jan 6 0
  • Cisco / Other quit2019
    The only thing Cisco does well at this point is layoffs.
    Jan 8 2
    • Intuit / Eng
      j123x

      Intuit Eng

      PRE
      Cisco, Verizon, Oracle
      j123xmore
      Yeah, when I was with Cisco, they lay off left and right and then hire contractors so that managers can take cut.
      Jan 8
    • Toptal tulaimanas
      Laid off some 3k employees in last 4 yrs in california alone ( just the reported incidents)
      https://6figr.com/layoff/Cisco-Systems

      This site collects layoffs reported by companies, need something like this for transparency.
      Jan 9
  • New b37
    I work for a Japanese company with long hours and low pay, but they have _never_ had a layoff.
    Jan 6 2
    • New cuddler
      Isn’t that true for most Japanese companies ?
      Jan 7
    • New b37
      Yes, definitely. You "insure" against unemployment by working very long hours and always putting the company first.
      Jan 7
  • Verizon TheRealOJ
    Verizon has never laid anyone off. Literally the best company ever. I make 9mil TC, and can take a dump on my bosses sisters chest no issues.
    Jan 7 2
    • Amazon / Mgmt Bello
      Why are they reserving this reward activity for sisters only?
      Jan 8
    • Verizon TheRealOJ
      Its an equality thing.
      Jan 8
  • New cuddler
    Why are companies and especially startups and more so in North America are so insecure that then they lay off, they don’t give an opportunity to the fired employee to say good bye to colleagues. I mean we invest time and energy in relationships and friendships at work. Why do we need to be escorted out? Until the previous day we were the apple of the eye of employers and all of a sudden no more trust and hence we need to be taken out? That’s just cold, inhuman and disrespectful.
    Jan 7 2
    • Universal Orlando 8675309k
      My understanding is because someone cut up somewhere and it's now company policy.

      Or your manager is a dick.
      Jan 7
    • New / Product ttnn
      Welcome to "risk management" where you treat everyone equal, but at lowest common denominator. Don't want to discriminate by letting some linger. It feels shitty, but it prevents a whole host of potential problems and legal challenges.
      Jan 10
  • Cisco does it twice a year
    Jan 6 1
    • Cisco / Design
      nasdaq

      Cisco Design

      PRE
      Intel Corporation
      nasdaqmore
      Pretty heavy one every 2-3 years
      Jan 6
  • Hitachi Vantara / Other vataran
    2-3 times a year, more when a new executive joins
    Jan 6 2
    • New cuddler
      New execs are usually insecure and bring their old clan from previous work and recreate their old empire in new work place. So they fire the existing ones.
      Jan 7
    • American Airlines Pug Darker
      Yes. This happens all the time.
      Jan 7
  • Tesla / Other ishwbzheh
    We don’t lay off people we let them go
    Jan 6 1
    • SpaceX SlaveX420
      Ya it's the same spin over here. Let them go like catch and release so they become free.
      Jan 6
  • Cisco is 2 times a year and some small ones here and there. So the conversation on lay-off is ongoing and we focus more on layoffs than work ;-)
    Jan 7 0
  • Microsoft joeski18
    It depends. Layoffs occur throughout the year. The frequency is dependent on size of the change. There are one-offs and others are massive due to larger restructuring. Additionally, some companies will limit the number of layoffs for various reasons (e.g., business and local compliance).
    Jan 6 0
  • Dell / Mgmt
    mikedell

    Dell Mgmt

    PRE
    EMC Corporation
    BIO
    Hardware emphasis, some security
    mikedellmore
    Quarterly at Dell. Poorly handled.
    Jan 6 0
  • Valve ShTW84
    Once a year, between November and January, mainly due to bonuses being determined at year end (its the only time management gets a bunch of performance information at once). It’s usually a small scale removal of poor performers, major layoffs are every 2-3 years due to business restructuring.
    Jan 7 0
  • Bloomberg
    No layoffs at Bloomberg
    Jan 6 0
  • Overstock.com / Mktg 838idnn32n
    Every Jan here. So consistent it has an actual name: nutcracker. Heard from the exec meeting this week that it will be particularly large this year. Hadnto find 15 to 20% to cut.
    Jan 6 0
  • Reltio Zzzz!!
    Twice a year!!
    Jan 6 0
  • Intel &&-9jj
    Hypothetically, there should be layoffs daily as a large companies optimize towards the largest investment opportunities.
    Jan 6 2
    • American Airlines Pug Darker
      Hypothetically that would kill moral to the point that nobody would want to work for such a shitty company.
      Jan 7
    • Intel &&-9jj
      The good employees would.

      Also, you prefer they save up their layoffs for all at one time so you can walk out with your friends?
      Jan 8
  • Yahoo Whtvr
    I heard UPS has very infrequent lay-offs and their benefits are great. I have a relative working there as a delivery person for many years now. They get pensions. The pay is better than his brother who works as a lawyer still paying off a student loan (that’s because most lawyers don’t make diddly squat )
    Jan 10 1
  • Veritas / Other 13Jija
    Every month. It includes good and bad people. Please note, my company is going through bad phase.
    Jan 7 0
  • Xilinx / R&D Frederik
    Not nearly often enough
    Jan 6 0
  • Dell miUd57
    Twice a year at Dell. Usually there are layoffs going on in some part of Dell throughout the year.
    Jan 6 0
  • US Bank / Finance
    LkYl04

    US Bank Finance

    PRE
    Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase
    BIO
    There are three ways to make a living in this business. Be first, be smarter, or cheat.
    LkYl04more
    Usually annually. We just did a restructure for redundancy. Was awkward having some of my PMs just disappear
    Jan 6 0
  • Amazon / Eng scoops34
    I heard Capital One absolutely decimated its Planos office when it decided to get out of handling mortgages
    Jan 14 1
    • Bank of America BRjH71
      I heard that too. Tech expanded though
      Jan 14
  • Bank of America BRjH71
    IDK how many but happens every year. Not sure it's a company wide thing
    Jan 8 0
  • Starbucks / Eng baked
    Seems like 4 years
    Jan 7 0
  • Zendesk 1-a-day
    Never, just individual firings as needed (and not enough probably)
    Jan 7 0
  • Yahoo / Eng TC or GTF0
    Once a year usually. It varies on how they are decided. It’s usually a percentage cut performed on either a per-team basis or a per-org basis. The per-team ones are the most brutal because you can have an excellent team with no fat but someone still has to go. Now that Oath is dead and being rebranded as Verizon Media, we might see entire teams wiped out this time around.
    Jan 7 0
  • Jam City Not_Sure
    Every 6-8 months
    Jan 7 0
  • Logitech / QA
    xzibitrabi

    Logitech QA

    PRE
    Uber, Lyft, Microsoft
    xzibitrabimore
    Each year we cull the poor performers.
    Jan 6 0
  • Universal Orlando 8675309k
    About every quarter.
    Jan 6 0

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