Microsoft SDE 2 Offer

Amazon FRocker$
Apr 13, 2018 41 Comments

I got the following offer for Microsoft SDE 2:
Base: $146k
Bonus: $24k
Stock: $50k over 4 years.

I am currently SDE 2 at Amazon (promoted this Q1) and my target comp is $177k. The Microsoft offer is from Power BI group, Bellevue and I already negotiated once. I don't know if it is L61 or L62 and recruiter won't disclose that detail. Is there a room for negotiation?

Updated offer:
Base: $148k
Bonus: $48k
Stock: $100k over 4 years.
Is this offer max for L62?

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TOP 41 Comments
  • Microsoft / Eng jgctincc
    New grads. Shut up about stock. We all know the new grad numbers and that they are higher than industry offers. We also know that unless you're walking away from a lot of stock or have other offers, MS won't go to be great numbers.
    Apr 13, 2018 0
  • Google Facebook
    Pretty sure that’s for 62.
    Apr 13, 2018 0
  • Microsoft / Mgmt
    D3V0P$

    Microsoft Mgmt

    BIO
    RTFM!
    D3V0P$more
    Ask for 500k
    Apr 13, 2018 1
  • Microsoft rqNt00
    Base is good, stock can go much higher
    Apr 13, 2018 0
  • IBM / Eng ...
    Looks like standard issue Seattle area salary for SDE1, base salary is good though, negotiate the rest of that shit
    Apr 13, 2018 3
    • Dell PQIC21
      Is this the average salary for sde1 in seattle, who is offering 146k base to sde1s?
      Apr 13, 2018
    • Facebook bebopboop
      No he's saying total comp is sde1 level. Base salary is good for sde2. I think
      Apr 14, 2018
    • IBM / Eng ...
      Spot-on !
      Apr 17, 2018
  • Microsoft LxaP45
    There is still room to grow for L62.
    For reference I got a L62 offer from MSFT in 2016.
    Base: 145k
    Sign on: 85k
    Stock: 150k over 4 years.
    This was after negotiating. I had a competing offer.
    Apr 28, 2018 2
    • J.Crew Cls1878
      How many years of exp did you have at the time?
      Apr 28, 2018
    • Microsoft LxaP45
      4.5 years of experience at the time from AMZN and GOOG. Competing offer was to return to AMZN.
      Apr 28, 2018
  • Truckstop.com GJ1JP
    The base is pretty good. It is for upper level of L62
    Apr 13, 2018 2
    • Truckstop.com GJ1JP
      Is there any bonus range?
      Apr 13, 2018
    • Amazon FRocker$
      OP
      Yearly bonus can go up to 20%.
      Apr 13, 2018
  • Microsoft / Eng jgctincc
    Good base, looks 62, wiggle room for stock and maybe signing, doesn't hurt to ask.
    Apr 13, 2018 1
    • Amazon FRocker$
      OP
      Initial offer's stock was $20k and I asked for $100k. Recruiter only increased it to $50k. Do you know any range for l62 offers?
      Apr 13, 2018
  • Microsoft O2
    Base is solid. Stocks are low. Ask for $100k
    Apr 13, 2018 0
  • Amazon MeowZedong
    They should tell you the level. That sounds weird. They had disclosed level clearly last year I got an offer from them.
    Apr 13, 2018 0
  • Amazon Msftcomp
    My offer is also same as yours except base
    Apr 13, 2018 3
    • Amazon FRocker$
      OP
      Did you get L62 offer?
      Apr 14, 2018
    • Amazon Msftcomp
      My base is 140k and L61 offer
      Apr 14, 2018
    • Intel datah
      Which group?
      May 27, 2018
  • J.Crew Cls1878
    You’ve mentioned bonus: $48k
    Is that the one time signing bonus or some other kind of (annual) bonus?
    Apr 24, 2018 2
    • Amazon FRocker$
      OP
      It was signing bonus and yearly target bonus of 20%.
      Apr 25, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng hbcfjbc
      Target is 10%. Max is 20%.
      Apr 28, 2018
  • Amazon FRocker$
    OP
    Is 220k TC max for L62?
    Apr 24, 2018 2
    • Amazon Msftcomp
      What is your split ... base stock and bonus?
      Apr 24, 2018
    • Amazon FRocker$
      OP
      Updated the original post.
      Apr 24, 2018
  • Intel fpHa33
    Did u go to the hiring event?
    Apr 20, 2018 2
  • Microsoft Jhfrtyg
    why not stay at Amazon
    Apr 13, 2018 1
    • Amazon neonap
      Staying at amazon won't help him growing fast.
      Negative raise this year.
      Apr 13, 2018
  • Snapchat WtfSnap
    It’s a very good offer for L62
    Apr 24, 2018 0
  • Groupon ijiji
    The fuck is wrong with the stocks
    Apr 13, 2018 0
  • Microsoft xTKH13
    I am new grad 59 and got 120 in stock
    Apr 13, 2018 0
  • Uber / Eng
    randomstr2

    Uber Eng

    PRE
    Microsoft, Facebook
    randomstr2more
    I joined MSFT in 2011 as a new grad (Level 59) and got $50k in stocks over 3.5 years. You can do better. My base was just 81k though.
    Apr 13, 2018 0
  • Microsoft xTKH13
    Negotiate 120k stock
    Apr 13, 2018 0

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