Salesforce SF offer ok?

Undisclosed tc0r6tfo
Oct 24, 2018 50 Comments

Just got this offer this week

11 yoe
170k / 15% / 100k rsu = 220k TC

Married w/2kids - wife stays at home. Moving from SoCal LA (TC 165k)

Messed up my leets in interview and got downleveled to SMTS - kind of surprised I even got offer.

They are not giving a lot of time to decide. Working on getting Amazon (PeopleTech-Sea)/ Uber (SF) onsites due to offer.

Part of me wants to move but I would like TC 260k at least to make it worth the move. Only reason for move is TC + better tech scene future.

Suck it up, take it and prove myself there or bail and keep looking? How high can they go?

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  • Google bonesmooch
    That’s very low. Personally I wouldn’t move. I believe sales force refreshers are poor too.

    Honestly mate moving here with two kids and without a working wife is going to be a huge mistake unless you’re at well over $300k with a strong upward trajectory. Just chill elsewhere.
    Oct 24, 2018 2
    • Undisclosed tc0r6tfo
      OP
      The goal was to try for 300k TC - and go from there, but def tripped up on this one.
      Oct 24, 2018
    • Google bonesmooch
      It’s ok man. Just be sure you’re making the right move in general is all.
      Oct 24, 2018
  • Intel BK'sBoyToy
    For 60k pretax or 35k post diff in salary? Meh. It'll be pretty hard with 2 kids and stay at home wife. Where are you targeting to live in the Bay? SF is not for families. San Mateo? Do you currently own a house in LA?

    I agree with Goog's reply above. Why not try for Google and SNAP (yeah I know they probably dying) in Venice Beach for an increase in TC in LA?
    Oct 24, 2018 8
    • Intel BK'sBoyToy
      Well, if you leave SF at 3:30pm on a weekday, it'll take 2 hours by car to get to San Jose. That's one way. So you got to live at the max 20 miles away from SF. Even within SF the commute is stupid depending on where you are. One Salesforce guy mentioned his morning commute took 45min from SF Marina District to the tower. That's literally 3 miles. But Salesforce has shuttles I think, so if you are fine working on the shuttle your options increase.
      Oct 25, 2018
    • Salesforce Nohana6
      Take the shuttle from San Mateo, Mountain View or Cupertino
      Oct 25, 2018
    • Athenahealth UrFriend
      In San Mateo you can get a nice 2 bed / shitty 3 bed for 4K
      Oct 25, 2018
    • Salesforce mWAJ01
      You can easily work from home for bulk of the week after you have ramped up.. so that one hour commute from east bay wont be that much of an issue.. helps a lot with wlb ..!
      Oct 25, 2018
    • Salesforce gudetama
      ^ you can only wfh more than Thurs if your manager is nice, lots of teams aren't like that
      Dec 8, 2018
  • Undisclosed yaej1a
    Extreme lowball, considering they do not have free food and a sandwich near their office costs $15 pre tax.
    Oct 24, 2018 3
    • Amazon noodlePool
      You mean post-tax? I wish we could buy food with pre-tax money. Lol.
      Oct 24, 2018
    • noodlePool : but why ?
      Oct 24, 2018
    • Salesforce gudetama
      Lower tax incurred if you could buy food w pretax money similar to commuter benefits ^
      Dec 8, 2018
  • Qualcomm Tucks
    It’s a good offer don’t listen to naysayers from FANG. The stocks could be asked to increase to 25% more
    Oct 25, 2018 0
  • Undisclosed kapok
    They are lowballing for sure.
    Oct 24, 2018 0
  • Salesforce rcno01
    Salesforce has a SoCal office. Ask if you can work from there.
    Oct 25, 2018 3
    • Salesforce lucky7
      Where in socal?
      Oct 27, 2018
    • Salesforce rcno01
      In LA. Small office though, but well located
      Oct 27, 2018
    • Salesforce gudetama
      If you possess unique or special skills this is even more likely ^
      Dec 8, 2018
  • Salesforce MrNobo
    It's definitely low for 11yoe. But if this is increasing your current TC by more than 30% then consider it and move in 2 years.
    Oct 24, 2018 3
    • Undisclosed tc0r6tfo
      OP
      It’s a 30% increase but pretty even for COL change, and QoL might take a hit

      Part of the plan is that once ”in” it would be easier to move around for higher TC - even at the same company
      Oct 24, 2018
    • Salesforce MrNobo
      You won't be able to get higher TC within Salesforce but yes once you are you can move somewhere else within 2 years.
      Oct 24, 2018
    • Salesforce IOiV85
      You won't see improved tc or rsu refreshes once in. Most people boomerang.
      Oct 25, 2018
  • Undisclosed tc0r6tfo
    OP
    Thanks for all your comments this late on a weekday

    Do you agree that 300k is a nice TC to shoot for?
    Oct 25, 2018 0
  • Undisclosed OGwg68d
    I’m from SoCal too and think that SoCal is better for a family of 4. At least the houses are cheaper.

    Anyways, your tc looks fine. It is possible to make 220tc in SoCal too.
    Oct 24, 2018 3
    • Undisclosed tc0r6tfo
      OP
      Def agree - it’s just me wanting to increase or double TC, get a big name on resume and buy a Tesla :)

      I can probably do 220 tc here but it would be hard top for IC
      Oct 24, 2018
    • Undisclosed Always be
      Salesforce isn't a top name. Don't take it
      Oct 25, 2018
    • Salesforce willforce
      Better than Undisclosed
      Oct 25, 2018
  • Salesforce Tdkah876
    You could get more RSU, I’ve seen SMTS offers recently higher without a ton of negotiation
    Oct 25, 2018 2
    • Undisclosed tc0r6tfo
      OP
      How high ? Just to get ballpark idea
      Oct 25, 2018
    • Salesforce Tdkah876
      I know people who got 120, I heard some people here get 170
      Oct 25, 2018
  • Undisclosed Babaduku
    You are being lowballed. I know MTS fresh out of grad school getting that much RSU.
    Nov 19, 2018 0
  • Salesforce Prldjcje
    It is pretty much guaranteed. The wildcard is there is a company performance multiplier so it is possible to get more than target, but I have not heard of anyone not getting target.
    Oct 25, 2018 0
  • Apple NoName!!
    Keep on interviewing , you can move a little later with the right TC
    Oct 25, 2018 0
  • Apple NoName!!
    Do not move , rents are high . With 2 kids it might be tight
    Oct 25, 2018 0
  • eBay Fuker
    Come work for eBay, TC around 300k+
    Oct 24, 2018 0
  • VMware jAiz23
    Run away worst offer for 11 yoe VMware offers better
    Oct 24, 2018 0
  • Cisco bitset
    How is bonus policy in sales force? Do you get all 15% as promised or there is politics considering you meet expectations
    Oct 25, 2018 3
    • Salesforce rcno01
      I never saw anyone not getting it.
      Oct 25, 2018
    • Undisclosed tc0r6tfo
      OP
      rcno01: When does the bonus get paid? If I join now when am I eligible?
      Oct 25, 2018
    • Salesforce rcno01
      September (about 5%) and April (about 10%). Your April bonus will be prorated, it's based on your last year salary in the company.
      Oct 25, 2018
  • Salesforce Hydera6ad
    Not OK. But everyone has his/her own choice. WL balance is awesome here though.
    Oct 24, 2018 1
    • Undisclosed tc0r6tfo
      OP
      That is what I keep hearing and makes me consider it
      Oct 25, 2018
  • Facebook PKyn06
    This doesn’t look like a good move with a family.
    Oct 24, 2018 1
    • Undisclosed tc0r6tfo
      OP
      Well take home would be around 12k, with deductions and max out 401k

      Rent 4k
      Utilities + food 2k

      Leaves 6k for rest of expenses

      Cars are paid off, $0 debt aside from mortgage

      Has to be pretty close to what I have left over every month over here
      Oct 24, 2018
  • Google 6ysbeukfm
    220k in SF is not even close to enough to support 2, let alone 4.
    Oct 26, 2018 0