Salesforce SFO or Microsoft Redmond

Capital One / EnggTti81
Jun 16, 2018 32 Comments

I recently got offers from Salesforce SFO for MTS position and Microsft Redmond for SDE2 (
Sfdc- 155k + 75k stocks + 10 k joining & MSFT - 140k + 30k stocks + 40k joining
).
I am unable to decide which company to go for : In salesforce I got offer from lightening data platform which is part of data.com . They use spark Scala Java and solr for their tech stack with bit of machine learning for dynamic indexing . In Microsoft I got into a team with Azure security / health analysis where I will be working to detect threat from different softwares getting installed on operating systems in Azure . We will predict the threat as well. I'm 28 years old with few years of experience . Any suggestions ? Please answer one company name :)

Follow up: The GC process is very time consuming in MS. I heard Salesforce does it faster - November and another month in year. If I happen to join salesforce in September will they consider my case for November filing of GC ?

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  • Google tcCd20
    Salesforce, growth there is pretty fast and you can make more money in the long run
    Jun 16, 20185
    • Capital One / EnggTti81
      OP
      Thank you . What is the more money concept ?could you please elaborate
      Jun 16, 2018
    • Google tcCd20
      Mts to smts is easy to do in one year if you're good. If you do good work you'll be recognized and promoted fast. Faster than ms imo. Azure tech is likely better though.
      Jun 16, 2018
    • Capital One / EnggTti81
      OP
      Ok sounds great. Azure tech is likely better in what sense ? My team is specifically towards security and health analysis
      Jun 16, 2018
    • Google tcCd20
      Salesforce is very product driven and the engineering quality usually suffers as a result. I think you'll learn better engineering practices at azure but you'll have wider scope at salesforce.
      I would pick salesforce if I were you. Good luck.
      Jun 16, 2018
    • Capital One / EnggTti81
      OP
      Thank you so much :)
      Jun 16, 2018
  • Tango Health / Engfifafever
    What's the GC process in Msft and why is it time consuming?
    Jun 16, 20188
    • Capital One / EnggTti81
      OP
      Well they don't file your PERM until 18 th month . Salesforce does it 8th month from joining
      Jun 16, 2018
    • Tango Health / Engfifafever
      Is that a generic org wide policy? I have seen earlier than that.
      Jun 16, 2018
    • Capital One / EnggTti81
      OP
      Yea they told me it's org wide policy and prioritized based on h1B expiry. What has been your experience ? They start the process from 60 th day though -- just that you will be sitting in an internal queue without any luck
      Jun 16, 2018
    • Tango Health / Engfifafever
      What if someone is moving from an another company with a I-140?
      Jun 16, 2018
    • Capital One / EnggTti81
      OP
      With i140 why do you even care ? You can always switch
      Jun 16, 2018
    • Tango Health / Engfifafever
      The I140 can be from a different company. And I have seen folks not having to wait 18mons unless a new grad. Are u a new grad?
      Jun 16, 2018
    • Capital One / EnggTti81
      OP
      What are the timelines you have seen ? Nope I have completed 2 years on my h1B . My current employer filed my h1B
      Jun 16, 2018
    • Capital One / EnggTti81
      OP
      The range they have was 12-18 months in the queue -- even if it were 12 months (best case) it would be really slow ?
      Jun 16, 2018
  • Microsoft JayZee
    Well Salesforce, duh!!! Why would you want to join a dying company?
    Jun 16, 20183
    • Capital One / EnggTti81
      OP
      CRM stocks are predicted to grow more than any other. Also they have been consistently rated great place to work for . In my case I am considering them because of the tech stack that I will get to work on + moving to Bay Area opens up tons of opportunities
      Jun 16, 2018
    • Microsoft JayZee
      Well yeah dude, I’m saying you should go to Salesforce and not join a dying dinosaur like Microsoft
      Jun 16, 2018
    • Capital One / EnggTti81
      OP
      My bad :) Well I think Microsoft has lot of potential untapped and the new CEO seems to be doing a good job so far. But yea based on current outlook I wanted to get some feedback and thanks for sharing it with me, appreciate it.
      Jun 16, 2018
  • New / Eng
    JillGates

    NewEng

    PRE
    Microsoft
    JillGatesmore
    Negotiate Microsoft up and take it now!!
    Jun 16, 20182
    • Capital One / EnggTti81
      OP
      Any pointers for negotiation ? I am at level 61. I think year end reviews will be bad if I am hitting the top base salary bracket without very strong performance
      Jun 16, 2018
    • New / Eng
      JillGates

      NewEng

      PRE
      Microsoft
      JillGatesmore
      PM me. I have lots of experience here.
      Jun 16, 2018
  • Unity / Product
    trumpy

    UnityProduct

    BIO
    you know, I know.
    trumpymore
    Is the stocks annualized? Or 4 years in total?
    Jun 16, 20185
    • Capital One / EnggTti81
      OP
      4 years total
      Jun 16, 2018
    • Unity / Product
      trumpy

      UnityProduct

      BIO
      you know, I know.
      trumpymore
      Then the difference in stock is not that significant. From a product point of view, join a team where the features can sell for money, which means it will keep growing. Azure health analysis sounds like a defensive org and managers need to work hard to find shining points, potentially hoping the cyber world gets worse and worse lol
      Jun 16, 2018
    • Capital One / EnggTti81
      OP
      Thanks for the feedback . Do you feel salesforce role is better in this case for me ?
      Jun 16, 2018
    • Unity / Product
      trumpy

      UnityProduct

      BIO
      you know, I know.
      trumpymore
      I just provide one perspective, nothing more. Determining where to work means going through multiple factors as other comments already point out. Good luck and in the end you will make the most reasonable decision as there may not be a perfect one.
      Jun 16, 2018
    • Capital One / EngBigInteger
      That is very true :)
      Jun 17, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng
    Curious🍦

    AmazonEng

    BIO
    Brb bio.
    Curious🍦more
    Microsoft. Better environment and better peers and better living area. Cost of living and all external benefits of the environment matter more than raw numbers.
    Jun 16, 20183
    • Capital One / EnggTti81
      OP
      Thank you for the suggestion :) I very much agree for the living cost part but could you please give me more example or help understand how's the environment at Microsoft better ? I know it will be competitive and if you are bottom of the rating then you get fired .
      Jun 16, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      Curious🍦

      AmazonEng

      BIO
      Brb bio.
      Curious🍦more
      That’s true no matter where you work. I wouldn’t worry about it. Either way MS takes a very loooong time to fire people. Spent a decade there myself though I was doing average/well.

      The campus at MS is awesome. Tons of more senior people to learn from. Less of the valley mercenary spirit and selfishness honestly. House and rent more affordable. The PNW is a great place to live. I lived two years down in the valley. Never going back to live there myself.
      Jun 16, 2018
    • Capital One / EnggTti81
      OP
      That sounds great :) thank you so much
      Jun 16, 2018

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