Should I FB..?

Bloomberg / Eng nerdypants
Feb 28, 2018 19 Comments

Thinking about applying to Facebook Data Engineer role. I'm a Data Engineer at Bloomberg for 10 years now, but been looking to get into the Software Engineering side (nontraditional background, majored in Finance in college). Well-versed in OOP in a few languages, data modeling, and of course scripting and pretty much every flavor of SQL. No Hadoop though, but fast learner in any case. I'm at 125k per year all in at BB right now. Could I be making more at FB? If so, how much more?

The other thing is, I'm not a leftist. Libertarian so can find common ground with anyone, but worried about culture at FB. Are they in the "diversity of everything except thought" camp?

Thanks for your input...

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  • Facebook public
    Yes, a lot, no.
    Feb 28, 2018 3
    • Bloomberg / Eng nerdypants
      OP
      Thanks for the response! I can appreciate the conciseness but would welcome details if you care to elaborate... :)
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Bloomberg / Eng nerdypants
      OP
      1. How much more? Considering 10 years experience not equal to a CS grad with similar experience. Trying to evaluate if it would be worth the increase in cost of living.
      2. Would applying as a DE pigeonhole me as such? Should I wait until I'm ready to apply as SWE (Master's degree and such)?
      3. Unconscious bias training and all that?

      Thanks again!
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Bloomberg / Eng nerdypants
      OP
      Got it. Very helpful--I really appreciate it! 👍
      Feb 28, 2018
  • Facebook VegetaBlue
    If you've never been a SWE before, I wouldn't recommend starting off the experiment with FB. The bar is very high and low performers get managed out aggressively. Stick to your strengths, start as a Data Engineer. Stay for a while, see what the life of a SWE looks like, and maybe then attempt a switch.

    If you get hired as a Data Engineer at E4, your base pay will be around 150k. At E5, around 170k. Add a sign-on bonus and an RSU grant that vests over 4 years to that.

    I think FB is one of the few places where you will find the freedom for "diversity of thought". The open culture certainly plays its role in enabling it.
    Feb 28, 2018 3
    • Bloomberg / Eng nerdypants
      OP
      Very helpful, thanks so much!
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng
      Foosb

      Microsoft Eng

      BIO
      Hate coding quizzes but studying hard for better future!
      Foosbmore
      Is RSU refresher and initial grant usually smaller than SWE? Also if the experience is relevant, how many years at large big tech like Microsoft will be good enough to make E5?
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Facebook VegetaBlue
      I'm not sure about initial grant but the target annual refresher for a data engineer at level n is the same as that of a SWE at level n-1.
      Feb 28, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng
    andjdbamba

    Amazon Eng

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    andjdbambamore
    Are you on a BB BI team? I’d be surprised if it only paid $125k after 10 years!
    Feb 28, 2018 5
    • Bloomberg / Eng nerdypants
      OP
      Not on BI team but have worked on BI projects. I occupy a weird space in Global Data where managers keep telling me I'm paid well "for Global Data" because I do ETL, queries & reports, applications, services, dashboards, etc but that is not the normal role in GD.
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      andjdbamba

      Amazon Eng

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      andjdbambamore
      Oh GD is a scam. At minimum transfer to BI Eng in Princeton. New grad offer there is $131k
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      andjdbamba

      Amazon Eng

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      andjdbambamore
      (It’s in 101)
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Bloomberg / Eng nerdypants
      OP
      Whaaaat.. Clearly I'm an idiot for sticking around so long. Thanks for the tip!
      Feb 28, 2018
    • Amazon / Eng
      andjdbamba

      Amazon Eng

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      andjdbambamore
      Idk how transferring works but I’d set up a coffee chat at minimum.
      Feb 28, 2018
  • Facebook / Eng ohboi
    If you've never worked in silicon valley you'll quickly find out that the "sjw warrior hell-bent liberals infesting your mind" is just a meme. Made popular by people from countries with over 90% identical people inflating their own ideas of who should be doing what and the small percent who actually believe there is some sort of "white genocide".

    There is probably more diversity at Bloomberg then here but way more diversity of thought here then Bloomberg. Just food for thought.
    Feb 28, 2018 1
    • Bloomberg / Other nerdypants
      OP
      Excellent. And you're probably right on that last point. Thank you!
      Mar 1, 2018
  • Yahoo / Eng
    vYf32Hop

    Yahoo Eng

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    vYf32Hopmore
    You can definitely make much more at FB, but you could also be making much more pretty much anywhere in NYC (where I assume you are). Definitely should look around.
    Feb 28, 2018 1
    • Bloomberg / Eng nerdypants
      OP
      Thank you. I'm near NYC but not working in the city, and wouldn't really want to... Appreciate the advice!
      Feb 28, 2018
  • Bloomberg / Eng nerdypants
    OP
    Also do they screen your Facebook profile when/before you apply? It's creepy but guess I can't blame em...
    Feb 28, 2018 0

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