Should I cc hiring manager when negotiating offer
About return offer at Facebook. The hiring manager is my team manager when I was interning. I didn't interact with him much but I had a meeting with him at the end of my internship where he was selling the team (the return offer). In this case, should I cc him when I'm asking my recruiter to raise the offer?
The thing is, the recruiter can't determine the compensation, either (if anything, the manager might have more of a say). Why are they the go-between? I feel like it's a tactic to isolate you from the real decision-makers. Ick.
I feel like negotiations are best done over the phone. Why don't you call the recruiter?
Yeah some say so. I'm not totally confident about talking over the phone. Got any tips on how to get the most out of a phone conversation?
I would not get on the phone with a trained salesperson to negotiate an offer. That's bad news, unless you think you can out-negotiate him/her.
Just the recruiter. The recruiter will bring it up with the hiring manager and be the person that "goes to bat for you" helping to justify your ask. If you're not asking much, the recruiter may even be authorized today make the adjustment themselves. If your ask is unreasonable, as sometimes is the case with people fresh out of school, they'll also help to protect your reputation with the hiring manager. They tend to see more of this and be more receptive to it than the hiring managers themselves. :)
Gotcha. Should i mention concrete target numbers or not in the case of not having counter offers yet with the recruiter? I had a very good rating as an intern so technically I should have more bargaining power, I assume
If you are not happy with recruiter's response, there is no harm in talking to hiring manager.
No. Hiring manager can't determine your comp
Yes they can. Including at Airbnb.
Comps are banded by levels and usually determined by a compensation committee. Recruiters have ranges in which they can negotiate after that compensation is determined. So unless you're pushing to be releveled or plan to reject your offer, 99% chance your hiring manager can't help you.