Twitch vs Snapchat

Vistaprint / Eng Rtigige
Oct 18, 2018 28 Comments

Twitch : L5
Snapchat: L4

Levels start at L1 at Snap, and L4 at Twitch, so Snap is giving me the more senior role.

Still waiting on offer details, but from initial conversations, Twitch TC will be ~230-250k the first year and Snap will be ~380k.

Both roles would be in the Bay. Twitch gives Amazon RSUs, which are more stable, but have a heavily backloaded vesting schedule. Snap stock has been rocky, but will start vesting immediately (and there’s a lot of potential upside since the stock would be granted at the current 1-2 month average).

I have Pinterest, Facebook, Google, and Uber onsites upcoming, but if these two were your only choices, what would you pick?

YoE: 5
TC: 180k

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TOP 28 Comments
  • Amazon / Eng Shoopy
    Snap. No question. That’s a $150k TC difference. Why are you even contemplating?
    Oct 18, 2018 0
  • MITRE / Eng ydFq45
    Snap. The stocks are going at very low rate. If Snap pulls back to its previous levels in a few years you will wish big.
    Oct 18, 2018 0
  • Twitch / Eng Gdufu
    Twitch has become alot better over the past 6 months with the new office and cleaning up some of the mismanagement. Certain teams are also better than others. Happy to trade DMs if you have more questions.
    Oct 18, 2018 1
    • Nordstrom Rz9qvv
      How is work life balance at Twitch, maybe compared to the stories we hear at Amazon itself?
      Nov 5, 2018
  • Facebook / Eng Vkfkf393
    Snap. Look at Twitch ratings on Glassdoor, it's gone down dramatically after the acquisition.

    How many years of experience do you have?
    Oct 18, 2018 1
    • Vistaprint / Eng Rtigige
      OP
      That’s true. It also looks to be bouncing back a bit now, right?

      YoE is 5 years.
      Oct 18, 2018
  • Lyft crossfire
    Depends on the team, project and other things too, but if I have to pick between the two with this info, it would be Snap. However, tbh, both seem not so great for different reasons, I would try to get better offers from better places.
    Oct 18, 2018 0
  • Facebook / Eng
    zael

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    zaelmore
    snap’s vesting schedule is nice. monthly with no cliff. should help guard against the downside of the stock decline
    Oct 18, 2018 1
    • Facebook / Eng
      zael

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      zaelmore
      note that the RSU valuation is the average of the previous two months. if you started any time in Nov, it would be avg closing of Sep and Oct
      Oct 18, 2018
  • Apple / Eng Apple Park
    Think about the overall condition of Snapchat and how that company is being ran. Given the massive decline in their stock price due to mis-management, I would also think long and hard about the risk involved with any compensation package that includes stock.

    My opinion is to stay away from Snap, but that’s not an endorsement for Twitch. Honestly, I’d throw those interviews into the ‘prepping for something better’ bucket and shoot for one of the FANG opportunities.
    Oct 18, 2018 0
  • Snapchat MVVI80
    Snap. Management is getting better right now with much better focus. It also depends on team/project for both options. Vesting schedule recently changed. It used to be 1year cliff.
    Oct 18, 2018 2
    • Facebook / Eng
      zael

      Facebook Eng

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      zaelmore
      how are the snap teams in SF?
      Oct 18, 2018
    • Snapchat derpmaster
      Agree with OP.
      Oct 20, 2018
  • Facebook Itsamario
    Snap, they might be a sinking ship but they have potential and offer is better. I’d go with them for now
    Oct 18, 2018 0
  • Twitch nLheScT
    Def snap
    Oct 18, 2018 0
  • Western Digital oliveoobe
    For oop design was that like the concepts of oop such as polymorphism and inheritance or like designing something using oop concepts?
    Oct 21, 2018 1
    • Vistaprint / Eng Rtigige
      OP
      Designing something
      Oct 22, 2018
  • Western Digital oliveoobe
    Can you talk about how the twitch interview process was? How were the coding questions and how many?
    Oct 21, 2018 1
    • Vistaprint / Eng Rtigige
      OP
      Pretty generic SWE. 1 strict coding question. Rest were behavioral, system design, or OOP design.
      Oct 21, 2018
  • Ellation SgNh86
    Snap, thats just too much of a tc difference.

    how long did it take for Twitch get back to you after onsite?
    Oct 18, 2018 1
    • Vistaprint / Eng Rtigige
      OP
      Next day.
      Oct 18, 2018
  • Expedia patronis
    Snap. The RSU are a gamble in both cases. I can't speak to Twitch specifically but I have worked in a company which is being integrated into an acquirer and your work may involve 'synergies' which is exactly as fun as it sounds.
    Oct 18, 2018 0
  • Salesforce bQaR70
    Does L5 at twitch map to SDE2 at Amazon? And L6 map to SDE3?
    Oct 23, 2018 1
    • Amazon / Eng DingDong22
      Yes. Those are the internal, company-wide levels at Amazon.

      SDE2 and SDE3 are titles not levels.
      Oct 23, 2018
  • How much time did it take for Snap to get back to you?
    Oct 18, 2018 1
    • Vistaprint / Eng Rtigige
      OP
      Next day
      Oct 19, 2018
  • Twitch GoDw48
    What is TC role?
    Nov 10, 2018 0
  • Microsoft Shanty
    What if Snap goes under?
    Oct 18, 2018 0