Uber SWE - II offer

Adobe DollarPay
Mar 5 48 Comments

Hi Blind!

My current annual TC at Adobe is $285k:
Base: $155k
Bonus: $10k
RSU: $120k

Got an Uber offer (same salary for SF and NYC) and the recruiter says the max range is:
Base: $150k
RSU: $92.5k
Cash Bonus: $13.5k
Total: $256k

After some negotiation, this is the max that the recruiter said she can do. She also added $25k sign on bonus for two years. And said the equity refresher is also good. But, Adobe has way better equity refresher for high performers.

YOE: 4

Any more room for negotiation?

Ps: Before you ask about my LC prep. I did around 50 Hards, 200 Mediums and 75 Easy. I also practiced the problems multiple times that made me get to a state where I was able to write bug free code for a seen LC problem in less than 5-6 mins. Took around 50 Pramp interviews at max difficulty (used multiple emails to get asked the same questions once I finished all the hard questions). System Design was the problem, that’s why I didn’t get leveled up higher. Was aiming for a $325k+ offer for my next move.

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  • Activision Blizzard others
    God dam so much leetcode. What was you study plan/ timeframe
    Mar 59
    • Adobe DollarPay
      OP
      Timeframe 4 months. Used the December break, evenings and early mornings for LC. Had to pull out a few 16-17 hour days. But, it was all worth it I feel. I feel more confident than before with problems now.

      Study plan: Concentrate only on mediums. Easy wastes a lot of time and brings down the morale of you aren’t able to do them. There are a lot of patterns in LC. Read them. You’ll slowly start seeing problems and recognize the pattern. From then onwards, it’s all about how much you’ve practiced. See as many variations of each pattern. That’ll prepare you to face any problem in the interview.
      Mar 5
    • Salesforce loader
      Thanks for the tips. But where do you read about the LC patterns? Is there a list somewhere (like design patterns but for LC)?
      Mar 5
    • New cswwxh
      +1
      Mar 6
    • Qualcomm dynasty001
      Some Patterns
      Mar 8
    • Activision Blizzard others
      Can you link that thread
      Mar 8
    • Qualcomm dynasty001
      Ahh man pretty old thread on r/cscareerquestions .
      Mar 8
    • Adobe DollarPay
      OP
      Patterns you’ll come across when you go a lot of Leetcode.

      Also, here’s a google hack:
      Type the following in google:

      Site:Leetcode.com template

      This will help you find a lot of patterns.
      Mar 13
    • New yovkckw
      thanks, what do you mean by "patterns you'll come across when you go a lot of Leetcode"?
      Mar 13
    • Qualcomm dynasty001
      I think he means that youll eventually start seeing patterns if you do a lot of Leetcode. Now “a lot” is relative. I am only 60 questoons in and so far i have seen patterns only for the topics i am heavily invested in (like graphs ). But my bet is it will start coming to you once yoi reach 250/300 mark. There are only such a finite amount of data structures and tricks that repeatability os inevitable.
      Mar 14
  • eBay shock
    How did you prepare for system design? How do you think pramp had helped you?
    Mar 58
    • Adobe DollarPay
      OP
      Used the following:
      Oreilly lectures on Distributed Systems by Tim Berglund
      Grokking the System Design Interview
      YouTube Vid: CS75 lecture 9 by David Malan

      Also used a lot of other YouTube videos but couldn’t complete any of the above as I spent most of time in perfecting Leetcode.
      Mar 5
    • eBay shock
      I did just like you, cleared coding rounds n for design got feedback no real experience , so got reject from facebook. Google is hard.
      Mar 5
    • Microsoft / Eng
      tarasenko

      MicrosoftEng

      BIO
      Intern @ MS
      tarasenkomore
      @shock you got reject from Fb and google?
      Mar 5
    • eBay shock
      Yeah
      Mar 5
    • Microsoft / Eng
      tarasenko

      MicrosoftEng

      BIO
      Intern @ MS
      tarasenkomore
      @shock and it was because of system design? They didn’t even try to downlevel you?
      Mar 6
    • eBay shock
      They said no openings for E3 at that time and recruiter was saying as becoz you might not be interested to join after so much experience at E3. Frankly i was interested even at E3.
      Mar 6
    • Microsoft / Eng
      tarasenko

      MicrosoftEng

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      Intern @ MS
      tarasenkomore
      Damn you should have told her then?
      Mar 6
    • eBay shock
      But there were no openings..
      Mar 6
  • Cisco hitchkey
    At what price you got the RSU’s at uber?
    Mar 54
    • Oracle redviper
      What is Uber's valuation at 42.52 per share?
      Mar 5
    • New / Eng|l|l||l|l|
      The price doesn't matter. Once they IPO the only thing that'll matter is the market price at the time of sale. What matters now is the absolute number of units they're granting.
      Mar 6
    • Oracle redviper
      Yeah, but would be good to get an idea of uber's valuation according to their 409a. At 40.88, they were valued at 62B.
      Mar 6
    • Uber
      KnkG84

      Uber

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      Microsoft, Yahoo
      KnkG84more
      409a valuations are confidential. Please do not share the numbers you hear from you recruiters. The numbers are likely out there in the world, but as a candidate with an offer, it's your obligation to not share it.
      Mar 6
  • Microsoft lMQO62
    You’re overpaid due to stock appreciation. Just vest your RSUs and *then* leave. Obviously.

    @OP weird flex 💪 but ok 👍
    Mar 50
  • Look at the bigger picture (not only comp).... will you grow your career more at Adobe vs Uber? What about technology stack you will be working in? Do you even care about career growth? Adobe seems to be less and less about engineering lately...
    Mar 81
  • Uber
    on3p

    Uber

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    Google, Facebook
    on3pmore
    you’re close to the max, but not quite there

    my L4 offer was $154.5k base, $391k over 4 years in RSUs (using 62B so v conservative), and $50k signing over 2 years
    Mar 54
    • Adobe DollarPay
      OP
      When was this?
      Mar 5
    • Cisco hitchkey
      Same with me. Few weeks back
      Mar 5
    • Uber
      on3p

      Uber

      PRE
      Google, Facebook
      on3pmore
      few months back
      Mar 5
    • ServiceNow / EngtWID66
      Can you pls share number of total stocks over 4 years?
      Mar 9
  • LinkedIn glasscave
    Yea that’s a step in the wrong direction, for sure
    Mar 53
    • Adobe DollarPay
      OP
      Why do you think so? Can you explain? Will help me see things more clearly. TIA
      Mar 5
    • LinkedIn glasscave
      Because it’s a drop in TC
      Mar 5
    • Salesforce hypeforce
      And you know where you need to improve (system design) , so try again in 6 months
      Mar 6
  • Barclays PLC sscL38
    Where did you graduate from ? Just wanted to know if Uber or FANG only contact people from a very reputed college.
    Mar 53
    • Uber / Engxbdwj
      As someone involved in hiring, they make a point of talking to grads from everywhere.
      Mar 5
    • Barclays PLC sscL38
      But how do they start off looking for such grads, LinkedIn or indeed prime or some other place ? And what's the criteria they are specifically looking for ?? Is it certifications or something else
      Mar 5
    • Uber / Engxbdwj
      I couldn’t tell you, I was found through LinkedIn and I’m from an overseas university nobody would have heard of. Having relevant work experience, good yoe probably helps.
      Mar 5
  • New / Eng
    CnfusdSprm

    NewEng

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    CnfusdSprmmore
    Seriously 120k rsu’s per year ?
    Mar 52
    • Microsoft lMQO62
      Yes because they must be old vesting package valued much lower originally
      Mar 5
    • Adobe DollarPay
      OP
      Yes, exactly what IMQO62 said
      Mar 5
  • YapStone Warrior17
    120k rsu per year at adobe?
    Mar 51
    • Adobe DollarPay
      OP
      Yes, all numbers in this post are yearly.
      Mar 5
  • Uber / Eng
    AywB51

    UberEng

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    Apple, Microsoft
    AywB51more
    You’re a top performer so can probably level quickly to L5 at Uber. 1-2 years maybe? That’s when the money rolls in.

    Also, additional yearly equity refreshes are given. Or, I think they should be. Ask the recruiter about those. You get even more if you perform well (at Director discretion).
    Mar 200
  • Microsoft / Eng
    tarasenko

    MicrosoftEng

    BIO
    Intern @ MS
    tarasenkomore
    What were your other offers?
    Mar 50
  • Google / R&D
    hoidy

    GoogleR&D

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    Google, Amazon
    hoidymore
    Where's the location for the Uber offer and your current offer? If you're not in SF right now and the offer is for SF, I wouldn't move to SF just for this offer
    Mar 50

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