I’m seeing lots of post related to PIP. Would you mind commenting your/peers manage’s alias who ever put their direct reports on PIP. Also, can you please choose an option?
Interesting. And how does one land in PIP? General rule of thumb? Can an employee turn it around?
A PIP or Performance Improvement Plan is simply a Cover Your Ass strategy used by companies to collect 'evidence' before firing you, so that if you decide to sue them later, on grounds of wrongful termination, they have documentation to show that you were given 'every chance to improve' and you 'still failed'. All PIPs are structured such that you will never be able to meet some of the goals of the PIP (by having at least a few abstract goals that can't be quantitatively measured). This allows your manager to say that you did not do well on those goals, and you won't be able to dispute it, since the goal was subjective. THE SOLE OBJECTIVE OF A PIP IS TO COLLECT EVIDENCE TO GET YOU FIRED. The HR and your manager will always tell you that the PIP is a plan to help you improve, and that you won't be fired if you meet its goals. This is an outright lie that is told, to legally cover the company's ass. There is almost always no way out of a PIP. (Unless something drastically changes such as you becoming a critical key man now since somebody left, for example). Your manager would never, ever, put you on a PIP if their goal was to retain you. If they wanted to retain you, you might get a poor performance review, or a difficult 1 on 1 meeting, but never ever a formal PIP. So, if you were unlucky enough for some reason to be put on a PIP, check out mentally from work immediately, and start job hunting. You will be fired. Do not waste time trying to meet the goals of the PIP, since you will simply be sabotaged using the qualitative goals that can't be measured. Doesn't matter if you work for a well reputed tech giant, or a tiny startup, you will be fired at the end of a PIP!
Is PIP different from dev/coaching plan?
Not to mention if you actually get off a PIP that’s a negative mark on your record. So everyone future manager could denied your move into a new team. A old job they did a performance clean up, if you had a PIP in the last few years they selected you for layoffs.
Fully agree with Blippar's comments. Was on a Dev plan and luckily found another position to switch. I could see the writing on the wall that if I missed Dev plan I'd end up in PIP. In fact my mgr was quite honest that getting out of PIP would be close to impossible so Dev plan was my last chance to save myself. 😄
What is a dev plan?
Jesus Christ Microsoft you don’t know what a dev plan is. No wonder msft is in trouble
Still don't know...
Looks like some companies got multi tier thing going on. Traditional semi conductor companies used word Dev plan for career development and promotion. PIP for exit.
One thing for folks who are going through PIP, your only opportunity in the process is getting crisp measurements and criterias in PIP document prior to signing and ask employee services rep to ensure that the criterias are similar for Non PIP members of the team. This may improve your chance by little and may make it difficult for management to get rid of you. In retrun you may get a package to leave. This is rare but can happen.
PIP is very common at Amazon and rare elsewhere. At Amazon I’ve heard it being used as a genuine “warning” and have heard people recover from it, elsewhere you might as well give up on your work and spend the time leetcoding.
Lolz @ leetcoding
@Tallyho: That is simply not true. There are plenty of managers at Amazon that use PIPs to get rid of people they don’t like and not necessarily because of performance. I have a colleague who got past one and was still fired 6 months later and also a couple of weeks after taking parental leave to recover from a stressful 3 months long PIP
You can survive it if you're willing to work the hardest you've ever worked in your life and you address every point. I pulled an 80-hour week to do mine. Don't stay there, though. Use it to buy more time to job hunt, not to think about getting promoted.
Depends on your company culture, at Amazon we put manager performance on the line if pip challenge successfully, so the manager usually have enough dirty trick to get you to fail. Never stand between your managers and his performance, you will be thrown under the bus.
Sounds possible. In my case, I report directly to the CTO so there's nobody's jobs on the line but mine.
I was almost put on one. Though it was mainly due to my manager being incompetent and blaming me. The week it should have been implemented we re-org’ed and he was laid off. Dodged the proverbial bullet.
What is PIP and what is its significance?
It is a "Personal Improvement Plan". In other words, you suck at your job and they are putting you on notice that you need to improve or be fired. I have never heard of someone going from a PIP to being a star performer.
Performance improvement plan