What prevents white Americans from confronting racism?

Microsoft yoyi
Jul 30, 2018 57 Comments

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  • Pinterest ZuckHere
    Dear social justice warrior,
    This isn't your Facebook feed.
    - Blind
    Jul 30, 2018 1
    • Microsoft yoyi
      OP
      Dear ZuckHere,
      This isn’t your place to tell what it is or isn’t either.
      Jul 30, 2018
  • Oath SoOb00
    What’s racist is telling me I’m a racist because I’m white and white people won’t confront racism.

    Oh and yeah - a general observation about white people is racist
    Jul 30, 2018 11
    • Microsoft ThisOrThat
      @owl Lol aaaw kid

      Why cant I get an observation of you that puts black people in negative light.

      Is it that white people are easy target

      And that is because you suffer from soft bigotry of low expectations

      You are ok with generalizing behavior of white people, but don’t have the balls to do the same for black people and fail to recognize how racist and a hypocrite you are in doing so.

      Jul 30, 2018
    • Microsoft ThisOrThat
      @Apple I am not white, genius.

      Again only racists think that only white people can think a certain way

      You guys are seriously the racists ones and don’t realize it
      Jul 30, 2018
    • GE / Eng
      weakPtr

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      weakPtrmore
      This is exactly what a white racist would say!
      Aug 1, 2018
    • Lol suure you’re not.
      Aug 1, 2018
    • Microsoft ThisOrThat
      Maiyawa ghoosa
      Ask Siri to translate it
      Aug 1, 2018
  • Microsoft yoyi
    OP
    All the classic denial/deflection tactics of confronting racism are evident in this thread. Let me point out all the tropes and tear them apart for y’all one by one -

    1. The “I’m the victim here and you’re the perpetrator” argument - False equivalence, being labeled with whiteness has never harmed white people at a systemic level, most white stereotypes are positive and have never limited their self determination or expression. It’s about the power dynamic. That’s the key thing.

    2. The “What about your own internal racism/violence etc. etc.?” argument -Mostly a deflection tactic, poc simply don’t have the political power or intention to inflict any racial damage on white people and white people aren’t genuinely concerned about racism within poc communities.

    3. The “this isn’t the forum to discuss politics (depoliticization)” argument - Just a way to avoid the discussion of “sensitive” topics in the name of propriety. It’s sensitive because it makes you confront your own subconscious racist conditioning, while being merely sensitive for you it’s something poc live with on a daily basis.
    Jul 30, 2018 9
    • Microsoft TrumpWins
      Let me explain the academics of this discussion. Brain dead idiots like you cook up a bunch of racist BS to keep minorities angry and confused against whites for political reasons. Then POC like me have to fight harder to prove we don't need any "help" from people or politicians like you.

      You absolutely do not speak for all POC. Everything you're saying is adding to racial division. Just shut up and go away
      Jul 30, 2018
    • Microsoft yoyi
      OP
      @TrumpWins people like you are the reason why an honest conversation about race can never be had in this country. I rest my case here. Goodnight.
      Jul 30, 2018
    • Microsoft TrumpWins
      Bye racist. Go brainwash some people on Twitter since this didn't work out for you. Should be easier.
      Jul 30, 2018
    • Credit Karma EllisDee25
      How is the OP creating institutional racism? What vital part of society do they control?

      OP, how’d you get the power to convince black people that cops don’t treat them as innocent until proven otherwise? How’d you get the power to create institutional racism?
      Jul 31, 2018
    • PeerStreet / Other
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      Ju63vNQamore
      As a black pansexual feminist gender queer non binary organism I find OP incredibly offensive, please go back to tumblr where you belong
      Aug 1, 2018
  • Microsoft yoyi
    OP
    If you’re white and you feel triggered because of reading this article then you’re proving the very point of this article. Calm down, this is not about you. You are not at fault. This is about looking at the bigger picture, at a time scale of 100s of years, at a demographic scale of millions of people, at a power structure that has existed for centuries and subtly (and in some cases not so subtly) benefits you to this day. It’s about taking cognizance of that. It’s about not “othering” people of color, it’s about not normalizing whiteness as the default, its about showing some sense of empathy etc etc.
    Jul 30, 2018 6
    • Microsoft ThisOrThat
      Generalize a group and write they will not like being generalized, GENIUS
      Jul 30, 2018
    • Amazon TWbP84
      You’re in tech you can probably think about abstractions. If you can’t see the systemic structure in this country that favors whites you’re a fucking liar.
      Aug 18, 2018
    • Microsoft ThisOrThat
      Lol show me oh great enlightened one
      Explain to me why Nigerian immigrants are doing better than white Americans, if there is such a systemic structure in this country

      Show me the laws that are apparently supposed to put a brown immigrant like me down and favor the whites
      Aug 18, 2018
    • Amazon TWbP84
      You say Nigerian immigrants and neglect the class of these immigrants. The systemic structure that affects black Americans is racial-capitalism which creates a class society based on both wealth/race, yes, a tiny amount of wealthy blacks exist in this system as do poor whites.
      Aug 21, 2018
    • Amazon TWbP84
      For one the whites didn’t have to be second class citizens when the immigrated here, you? I’m guessing you’re h-1b? Cool
      Aug 21, 2018
  • Microsoft TrumpWins
    Would be more relevant and interesting to analyze why minorities can't confront their own racism. I've met more racist black people than white people
    Jul 30, 2018 6
    • Microsoft TrumpWins
      No we don't. Who told you that? And what makes you think you have the authority to speak for all black people?
      Jul 30, 2018
    • Bread qawsedty
      Troll.
      Jul 30, 2018
    • Microsoft TrumpWins
      Saying not to assume people's experiences purely on their race is considered trolling?
      Jul 30, 2018
    • Amazon TWbP84
      Um, black people cant be racist in this country. Racism = prejudice + power.
      Aug 18, 2018
    • Microsoft TrumpWins
      Must be why that black candidate in Detroit just got away with calling her Asian opponent “Ching Chong”
      Aug 18, 2018
  • GE / Eng
    weakPtr

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    weakPtrmore
    ...so...all white people are racist - and the ones who deny it are white racist snowflakes?
    Jul 30, 2018 2
    • Credit Karma EllisDee25
      Nah, just that white people have been conditioned by politics and the media to believe this is a fair and colorblind society. So they tend to get real anxious when anyone brings up systemic racism in society... like some people get all defensive and think if anyone mentions general racism against blacks then they’re saying all white people as individuals are at fault.
      Jul 31, 2018
    • Amazon TWbP84
      White people are snowflakes. This is a fact.
      Aug 18, 2018
  • TripAdvisor owlwise
    Great article. I would argue it's the same for non white people in other countries where they are the majority discriminating against a minority. Racism is predominantly non overt, everyone has some racist beliefs. The point is to catch yourself when you feel yourself acting a certain way and give the minority a break. It's scary but can be rewarding.
    Jul 30, 2018 0
  • Microsoft oh snap
    The most passionate advocates of this idea that all of us are racist that I’ve personally met always had a personal agenda. They made a career out of parroting this day in & day out. Their technical and leadership abilities were generally shit but they became untouchable because any judgment of their performance would potentially be viewed as retaliation/racism/sexism etc. one of them actually boasted in a team meeting that as a woman, partner & diversity champion she’s untouchable and can do whatever the f*ck she wants. Needless to say, she’s now a director even though the team she was leading as GEM was a disaster.

    The author of the book (White Fragility) is making a living out of trainings, talks and publications that sustain this viewpoint.

    As I said most are in it for personal gain. Modern day oil salesmen....
    Jul 31, 2018 1
    • Credit Karma EllisDee25
      Lol, the author isn’t arguing that all of you are racist - she’s arguing that white people get defensive or anxious about any discussion of racism in the US.

      You know, like being paranoid that any mention of systemic racism in the US implicates all white individuals as bigots. Or you know, like saying that someone on a book tour, in trying to pitch the value of their book (shock!), invalidates any claims made in the book.
      Jul 31, 2018
  • Uber mr_f
    This blind thread reeks of denial
    Jul 30, 2018 0
  • Snapchat A7sj73
    What the fuck did I just read
    Jul 30, 2018 0
  • New / Design KLVx14
    Whites confront racism all the time. Just seems like they're not confronting racism in the way (usually white) social justice warriors want them to. But it's all people talk about these days so what's not being confronted?
    Jul 30, 2018 2
    • TripAdvisor owlwise
      What way is that?
      Jul 30, 2018
    • Credit Karma EllisDee25
      In the bizzaro-universe way where any mention of general discrimination in society against non-whites is somehow construed as bigotry against white people.
      Jul 31, 2018
  • Credit Karma EllisDee25
    I have some ideological differences with a “privilege theory” approach to racism, but what’s described by the article rings true anecdotally.

    Conservatives often refuse to believe any racism exists and liberals tend to believe that racism has more or less been solved aside from individual “rednecks from some other region” and that symbolic individual efforts (like not using slurs, trying to be open-minded) will wash away racism. Mention “Hilary said ‘hard working people - white people - wouldn’t vote for Obama’ and also claimed that urban youth are ‘superpredators’ who don’t deserve juvenile-level courts or education” and watch them backpeddle and squirm.

    Although many white people (and non-whites) take this post-racial fairytale view, it’s not biological, genetic, or pathological in people — it’s ideological. Republicans have run on the concept of “civil rights are redundant” now for 40 years, Obama’s election pitch was basically: “hey a symbolic victory over racism, we’re post-racial now”. White people tend to believe it because a) whew, that’s a nice fantasy b) our society is about as class and race segregated as it was under Jim-crow, so many white opinions about the black experience in the US comes from newspapers, tv, am radio etc., not from common interactions and experience with black people generally let alone poor people or poor black people.
    Jul 31, 2018 0
  • Bread qawsedty
    White Privilege
    Jul 30, 2018 0
  • Deloitte PVaQ48
    Every white person should read this book.
    Aug 11, 2018 1
    • Microsoft oh snap
      Yes, it should be a mandatory read in the re-education camps.
      Aug 12, 2018
  • Adobe Fallbad
    Disagreement with a religious fundamentalist reinforces religious belief because it is evidence the Devil's existence and his power to deceive. Disagreement with a Freudian reinforces Freudianism because it is evidence of repression. Disagreement with an economic Marxist reinforces Marxism because it is evidence of false consciousness and bourgeois class bias. Disagreement with a cultural Marxist reinforces Marxism because it is evidence of unconscious bias and privilege. See the pattern? To become a certified True Believer you need to believe that disagreement proves you're right. Science transcended that, which is why we don't live in caves anymore.
    Aug 2, 2018 0
  • New / Other WNJC85
    Jul 30, 2018 0
  • Marvell ♠️
    What's up guys, you just need to shut up and scream BLM to remain decent.
    Jul 30, 2018 0
  • Lyft barbaz
    I'm pretty sure your answer is Scientology
    Jul 30, 2018 0

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