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Who's on call this week?

Amazon IwGveq
Nov 19

Which company do you work for?

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  • Amazon Chad_
    I left Amazon earlier in the year and my new company has no on call, we got this whole week off and we get two weeks for Christmas. On call is a scam
    Nov 2212
    • Facebook / Engpookyh
      Why does someone need to handle issues outside business hours? Is it because your company set expectations that someone would? If so, shouldn’t they have budgeted for what that promise might cost? If they budgeted zero dollars and assumed engineers will just do it then they’re shady.
      Nov 22
    • Microsoft holdsteady
      Right, they have budgeted for it, and the expectation is that it is part of the job of being an engineer at many orgs is to handle livesite issues.
      Nov 22
    • Netflix / EngFhiggi
      On call engineers are awesome
      Nov 22
    • Tableau YwcI06
      Thanks for keeping my videos streaming Netflix eng!
      Nov 22
    • Facebook / Engpookyh
      Oh absolutely. FB budgeted for this and pay me far too much to not be on call once every two months.
      Nov 22
    • Tableau YwcI06
      I've been at places that have used oncall as a way to ignore technical debt for "free". But I quit working at those places.
      Nov 22
    • Amazon Chad_
      On call is a scam because you are not supporting just your systems. You are also supporting every idiot who interacts with your system. I’ve gotten pages in the middle of the night multiple times because another teams service broke from data they got from mine but all my teams service did was get it from somewhere else and pass it along so it forces me to stay up on a call while another team figures it out. On call is just a way to make you work overtime with out paying you for it.

      @shelifts I went to a small video game company, about 60 people.
      Nov 22
    • Facebook / Engdelete[]
      This is because your new company does nothing or no serious customers.
      Nov 22
    • Netflix / EngFhiggi
      Chad, write your system to be tolerant to bad users? And write good docs?
      Nov 22
    • Amazon / Eng
      onMyWay

      AmazonEng

      BIO
      AWS
      onMyWaymore
      Ya, if your system shits the bed because of bad users, the problem exists with your system, not them.
      Nov 22
  • Clover Health / Engdoenfh
    Me. And the irony: I helped build PagerDuty.

    PS sorry for that Overrides UI
    Nov 193
    • Amazon xume14
      The new tool or the old one?
      Nov 22
    • Dropbox xFmE35
      Yeah it's not bad now.
      Nov 22
    • Clover Health / Engdoenfh
      The old. Glad it was improved.
      Nov 22
  • Intel pebX81
    Me
    Nov 193
    • Netflix / EngFhiggi
      What does on call at intel do?
      Nov 22
    • Facebook
      Bdudhrysb

      Facebook

      PRE
      Microsoft
      Bdudhrysbmore
      Release specter related press statements. “Yep, no hardware fix in our 9th gen cpus.”
      Nov 22
    • And what are you guys at FB busy doing, sleeping on the job when teenage girls are being auctioned off on your platform.
      Nov 22
  • Microsoft Blkman
    Hey amazon, go run that script and bring down all of East us. U will know who is on call. 😀
    Nov 220
  • Microsoft viewp
    Nov 222
    • Airbnb Hahhhno
      No
      Nov 22
    • Spotify / Other
      AN-225

      SpotifyOther

      BIO
      a very large airplane
      AN-225more
      Stop
      Nov 23
  • Amazon jajaa
    Amazon here. Got paged twice while with family. Fucking cheap Jeff won't give me a dime extra.
    Nov 221
    • Spotify WizzAir
      Shit. That's horrible.
      Nov 22
  • Tableau / Product
    Qlikbait

    TableauProduct

    PRE
    Amazon
    Qlikbaitmore
    I’m on call, on text, on Blind, online, on WhatsApp, on WeChat, on Kakao, on Bumble, on depression meds, on top of my finances, on caffeine, on S Holgate St, on the 4th floor, on.........
    Nov 226
    • Amazon Blindboss
      Isn't tableu a chill company?
      Nov 22
    • Tableau / Product
      Qlikbait

      TableauProduct

      PRE
      Amazon
      Qlikbaitmore
      Yes. Chill AF. On call is minimal. But this is Blind, so f***-f*** comments are the name of the game.
      Nov 22
    • Microsoft naaam
      I guess I'm the only one who read this commenter was "on top of my fiance's"
      Nov 22
    • Tableau / Product
      Qlikbait

      TableauProduct

      PRE
      Amazon
      Qlikbaitmore
      Her what?! I must know!
      Nov 22
    • Tableau 🔥it
      Tableau is *not* a chill company. There might be pockets of chill, but the infrastructure + most of the dev management are a catastrophe. There are too many slackers here making it a nightmare for many of us.

      I came from Amazon and at least the pain was shared - not passed along to the next unsuspecting team/new hire/reorg’d idiot.
      Nov 23
    • Tableau / Product
      Qlikbait

      TableauProduct

      PRE
      Amazon
      Qlikbaitmore
      I also came from Amazon. We could learn a thing or 41 from Amazon.
      Nov 23
  • Microsoft ENKq38
    Me but I’m in AU so don’t give a fuck
    Nov 223
    • Microsoft lqEl76
      AU ?
      Nov 22
    • CBRE / Eng
      DbCg83

      CBREEng

      PRE
      CSC, Sprint
      DbCg83more
      Australia.
      How do you not know this Microsoft?
      Nov 22
    • Microsoft lqEl76
      I thought it was Azure something or other.
      Nov 22
  • Google / Eng
    lena33

    GoogleEng

    PRE
    Salesforce
    lena33more
    Google pays for oncall
    Nov 220
  • Intuit / Eng
    j123x

    IntuitEng

    PRE
    Cisco, Verizon, Oracle
    j123xmore
    Its expensive to use contractors for oncall😜
    Nov 222
    • Walmart.com Rockymount
      Yeah. They have the pesky habit of wanting to be paid for hours worked.
      Nov 22
    • Intuit / Eng
      j123x

      IntuitEng

      PRE
      Cisco, Verizon, Oracle
      j123xmore
      Get paid for talking, walking, shi##ing, napping, and leave by 5. Great life
      Nov 22
  • Microsoft Task.run
    Based on this entire post, seems like sales force, Cisco and VMware are the companies that pay extra for on call. And Microsoft, amazon, google don’t. Not sure about Facebook.
    Ps: on call sucks and is a scam by companies.
    Nov 224
    • Microsoft HappyThank
      Agreed that it is a scam. Poor engineers.
      Nov 23
    • Okay legitimately how do people expect the product to be brought back online when it's broken in non-working hours?? That's literally the purpose of oncall!!
      Nov 24
    • Microsoft HappyThank
      It is not oncall that is the problem. It is how it was implemented. Common sense tells me you gotta take shift and take a day off after night shift. However, we don’t get to take a day off even after a week of oncall and working over the weekends. That will destroy your physical and mental health eventually. Standby time should also be considered as working time.
      Nov 24
    • Microsoft Task.run
      I don’t disagree with the continuous support for features or products or whatever. What I absolutely disagree with is companies making you work more than 8 hours, on weekends, on holidays and not compensating for it. What’s even shittier is, they don’t have proper shifts, like wtf is 24 hour or 12 hour shift- why can’t they have support around the world and break it to bearable 8 hour shifts? And to top it off, having to do on call for stuff you didn’t work on or completely irrelevant to your skill set. Like making pure devs do dev ops work during on call. And the whole ‘full stack developer’ scam- making a poor back end dev do front end and dev ops and what not, even designer work- that’s like the company is saving on hiring dev ops engineer, front end dev and UX designer, and hiring only one back end dev and calling it ‘full stack’ - but pay for only one role. Honestly, devs need to strike against this injustice
      Nov 24
  • Amazon / Engwhile(😪)☕
    👈
    Nov 192
  • Intel / Eng
    SciTex

    IntelEng

    BIO
    Work at Intel
    SciTexmore
    Me. Already got 4 texts and two phone calls before 9:30am...
    Nov 225
    • Intel / Eng
      SciTex

      IntelEng

      BIO
      Work at Intel
      SciTexmore
      Apparently engineers at TMG in the chandler branch need to give 24/7 support...
      Nov 22
    • Intel / Eng
      Heretic

      IntelEng

      BIO
      Process engineer working in fab. Slave to Moore’s Law and Intel’s philosophy of “copy exactly (CE!)”
      Hereticmore
      Fabs work 24/7 no warm downs anymore. I’m on call too!
      Nov 22
    • Intel / Eng
      SciTex

      IntelEng

      BIO
      Work at Intel
      SciTexmore
      I work with a woman from the fab. She told me to stop complaining because this R&D manufacturing floor is nothing compared to Fab.
      Nov 22
    • Intel / Eng
      Heretic

      IntelEng

      BIO
      Process engineer working in fab. Slave to Moore’s Law and Intel’s philosophy of “copy exactly (CE!)”
      Hereticmore
      She is right listen to her :)
      Nov 22
    • Intel / Eng
      SciTex

      IntelEng

      BIO
      Work at Intel
      SciTexmore
      🤣👍
      Nov 25
  • Cisco / ITvzIq77
    Made an easy $750 working an 8hr on call shift today
    Nov 222
    • Nordstrom / Eng
      udit

      NordstromEng

      PRE
      Google, Cisco
      uditmore
      Still just 750 years later? Lame.
      Nov 23
    • Apple Gg56fh
      Isn’t $90+ per hour pretty good? What is a good rate for additional on-call shifts (e.g: How much does Google SRE pay?)

      Does Nordstrom pay higher?
      Nov 23
  • Amazon LCvN01
    🙋🏼‍♂️ + bonus: Xmas and new year too
    Nov 220
  • Google / Eng
    Ex-Amazon

    GoogleEng

    PRE
    Amazon
    Ex-Amazonmore
    One of the reasons I moved companies was for better WLB. This is certainly untrue at the moment.
    Nov 223
    • Spotify Mukv38
      Does Google pay for on-call?
      Nov 22
    • Dell / EngMainOP
      How about Amazon AWS?
      Nov 22
    • Qualcomm / EngGrayGatsby
      Amazon AWS? Dude, AWS is the mother of all abusive on calls, you new?
      Nov 23
  • Qualcomm / EngGrayGatsby
    I REALLY think we as tech workers as a whole should do something about this exploiting “on-call” bullshit!!!! Strikes maybe?
    Nov 232
    • Microsoft Task.run
      Yes we should strike haha. But I ageee this is such a scam
      Nov 23
    • Um, wtf? Who the hell else do you expect to respond when the feature you or your team built is broken at 3am and Japan is calling the office.....?
      Nov 24
  • Microsoft *cW2x91p
    suckers
    Nov 190
  • Nvidia Amit K
    Nvidia doesn't recognize Thanksgiving as a holiday. I am still in meetings with Asia and India.
    Nov 225
    • LinkedIn NotStanLee
      Yikes
      Nov 23
    • Microsoft HappyThank
      I thought it is an American company. Is that even legal?
      Nov 23
    • Nvidia Amit K
      They can say officially that they recognize it, but what your manager makes you do is a different story
      Nov 24
    • LinkedIn NotStanLee
      Sounds like an issue for hr
      Nov 24
    • Microsoft HappyThank
      Sounds like some managers are calling for press articles.
      Nov 24
  • VMware HvrP17
    Let’s get this cash
    Nov 225
    • Twilio TechBrunch
      You get paid for oncall? Nice
      Nov 22
    • Marketo JvYz44
      Yeah, some companies pay extra bucks. Good enough for a nice Black Friday shopping experience.
      Nov 22
    • Twilio FrMg01
      How does it feel to be compensated the same way as a WalMart greeter on the holiday
      Nov 22
    • VMware nitO16
      You don't get paid at VMware for on call (unless you're not salary)
      Nov 23
    • Microsoft Staunch
      Lol why would they. It should be rotationary and rest is luck.
      Nov 23
  • LinkedIn / Eng
    goldbug

    LinkedInEng

    PRE
    Google
    BIO
    Full time coder and part time gold dealer.
    goldbugmore
    Me
    Nov 223
    • Microsoft Innocent
      Why r u on-call while LinkedIn is closed for biz over holidays?
      Nov 22
    • CBRE / Eng
      DbCg83

      CBREEng

      PRE
      CSC, Sprint
      DbCg83more
      Because shit can still break when no one is around? Fix it before operations resume or feel the wrath of users and management.
      Nov 22
    • LinkedIn / Eng
      goldbug

      LinkedInEng

      PRE
      Google
      BIO
      Full time coder and part time gold dealer.
      goldbugmore
      I just checked linkedin.com it is not closed for biz...
      Nov 22
  • Intuit Dnsheu
    Me. FML. Don’t even get paid extra for it.
    Nov 221
    • AppDynamics / ProductBjjou
      Why is intuit employee on call for Thanksgiving?
      Nov 23
  • Walmart.com uIxT111
    While I am employed in ecommerce, I will never have a normal Thanksgiving
    Nov 221
    • Uber nUber1337
      Hey can u not ask me to go to the store to pickup and return a cancelled order which was in packaging state ?
      Nov 23
  • Amazon / Engnutboy39
    I’m secondary. Luckily nothing normally breaks over the holidays because no one is deploying anything.
    Nov 220
  • DoorDash lokp
    Me
    Nov 223
    • DoorDash / EngRtyaxo
      Same company, also oncall
      Nov 22
    • Qualcomm TC!
      I know you two!
      Nov 22
    • DoorDash / EngRtyaxo
      Lies!
      Nov 22
  • Salesforce / Eng
    YoloForce

    SalesforceEng

    PRE
    Google
    YoloForcemore
    On call this week, but we get paid extra for being on call :)
    Nov 221
    • Apple Gg56fh
      That’s great. How much extra?
      Nov 23
  • अपुन भी गांड़ मरारेला है इस हफ्ते
    Nov 230
  • Apple / EngSatoshi__
    MeToo
    Nov 220
  • Microsoft / Engkejriwal
    Not meee!
    Nov 190
  • Shopify shopifolk
    Me. But we're in Canada, so not a big deal.
    Nov 222
    • Twilio TechBrunch
      in terms of you don’t care working? It’s probably a crazy week for you right?
      Nov 22
    • Apple iWork
      Canadian Thanksgiving happens in October and this is a normal work week for them.
      Nov 23
  • Apple Gg56fh
    Would a standardized practice of on call pay force companies to understand that they need better tooling to handle service outages? They’d have a clear choice- take postmortems seriously, invest in automated solutions and decrease the number of fire-drills or continue to pay engineers through the nose.

    It’s not a win-win deal if you’re on call and not being paid for it.
    Nov 230
  • Intuit / Eng
    j123x

    IntuitEng

    PRE
    Cisco, Verizon, Oracle
    j123xmore
    Yep, some companies demand you use PTO to take a Sunday off.
    Nov 220
  • Expedia / Engnoauth
    Me
    Nov 220
  • Credit Karma DiskSpace
    Aren't we all on call 24 hours a day.
    Nov 220
  • Lumeris kfjy18
    Nov 220
  • Intuit rd5980
    I am always on call, it’s the nature of the business. I had an escalation this morning at 06:00.
    Nov 220
  • Groupon / EngHmm29
    Me :(
    Nov 220
  • Microsoft uRMe08
    Why you want to know..lol
    Nov 220
  • Amazon maxof10
    I am.

    Add a poll to see how many people.
    Nov 220
  • PyLadies iQea15
    🖐
    Nov 200
  • Bank of America JamboHonk
    This guy. Oooweee
    Nov 190
  • Me just another week
    Nov 190
  • AT&T / Eng
    DDM2K

    AT&TEng

    PRE
    Optum, Windstream, AT&T, Verizon
    DDM2Kmore
    Skeleton crew on holidays for call outs but we had volunteers who want the 3x
    Nov 224
    • Blue Cross Blue Shield 10zzz
      AT&T Pays extra for on call?
      Nov 22
    • AT&T / Eng
      DDM2K

      AT&TEng

      PRE
      Optum, Windstream, AT&T, Verizon
      DDM2Kmore
      Hourly ppl yes
      Nov 23
    • Blue Cross Blue Shield 10zzz
      What engineering roles are hourly?
      Nov 23
    • AT&T / Eng
      DDM2K

      AT&TEng

      PRE
      Optum, Windstream, AT&T, Verizon
      DDM2Kmore
      What most of Blind would call pseudo-engineers or engineers by name only.

      IDC technical specialists (data center technicians), network technical specialists (long haul fiber maintenance), and NOC personnel.

      All making $40+ per hour, regular overtime, and can’t remember the last year they cleared less than $120k in a low COL area.

      They do hire externally directly into these roles but only if they cannot find qualified personnel internally (it does happen as the tests are difficult not by depth but breadth of knowledge required to achieve a passing score.)
      Nov 24
  • Wpromote quxr42
    Me.
    Nov 240
  • Amazon / R&DATTE75
    We have daily rotation :)
    Nov 240
  • Me! Now nobody touch anything!
    Nov 240
  • Uber / Eng
    @w@

    UberEng

    PRE
    Capital One
    @w@more
    I'm a secondary this week, no pings yet
    Nov 240
  • Google eXNB63
    Me for Sunday and Monday
    Nov 230
  • Union Bank / Eng'¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Moi.
    Nov 230
  • Amazon / EngdeJ2q8
    Do this "rm -rf /"
    Nov 220

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