Is this something that is achievable? On average I think I put in around 50-60 hours a week and I'm sure a lot more people put in more hours than I do, but I don't know if I suck at finding balance, but after working these kinds of hours I don't want to workout, hangout with friends or even go out. I've heard of people working out at 5 am before work but does this really energize people? I feel like my physical and mental health is slowly taking a hit from working these kinds of hours. I want to do what I'm doing for the next couple of years. It really is a great opportunity and I like the people that I'm working with, but I just don't know if this will be possible given the way I've been living my life. How do you all find balance?
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- Intuit / Eng BigChalupamoreThe beauty of working out at 5 AM is that once you are done you are done for the day. The thing is, if you do not want to work that many hours per week, then do not do it. If you keep doing it, it will become expected of you. Sometimes, you have to make your own work life balance.
- New TKOTCDon't focus on balance, focus on fulfillment. Obviously friends and health are important to you and your job is getting in the way. Time to talk to your leadership team to see if they are willing to scale back your hours and see if that helps, it might not and you might prefer working longer hours. When I was younger I did +60hrs a week and wore "burn out" as a badge of honor. I was really dumb in my youth. Be prepared to walk. If you like the work at Morgan Stanley you can always work for a subcontractor that allows better hours while still doing the work. Who knows, pay might even be better.
- HERE BshU54Not in Finance, but I've had times in my life where wlb was similar during a period where I was studying for a promotion test or investing in a particular project's completion. If you're finding this is a long term trend, take a deeper look at those hours you're working. Are those 50-60 PRODUCTIVE hours? Try batching your work (ex. making calls together at a certain time, documenting discussions at a certain time) so there's less context switching between tasks. There are different times of day when our energy is more able to focus on certain things. From what I've read thus far, first few hours are better for highly analytical/problem solving. After lunch switch to mindless, repetitive tasks. Later on the day, focus on creative things.
- I work in prop trading and work at most 40 hours a week. You just need an employer that respects your time/life.
- FactSet has amazing WLB for software engineers. I work like 35 hours to be honest
- P.S not a rest and vester here so only way to find balance was to GTFO of finance! Finally achieved WLB on the other side 😃
- Cadence / HR szbX52I would try (try) reducing your hours. Turn off the phone in the evening. I know finance people have their quarter end periods and work crazy hours. The finance people in my team seem to keep good hours. Arrive closer to 9. Leave by 5. Not sure if they are working at home. Working out early has its benefits. We are looking at using a new service called Headspace to help with work burnout and mindfulness. Hope something like that would help.
- I’m I’m Finance / Accounting at a fast growing startup and have almost zero WLB. Mainly because the company is terrible at adequately staffing the department. Getting to a point where it’s either 1) give me more staff, 2) give me a fat raise, or 3) I’m GTFO
- Doesn’t exist unless you are a rest and vester and can stay around until the top chief (supporting this behavior) is out...
- Wow, color me surprised. Just to be clear, you're referring to a finance professional who somehow got a meaningful portion of equity at a tech company and is now just kicking back waiting for it to vest? My understanding of "rest and vest" was that a large tech company acquires a small one and pays the founders in equity then sticks them in an office somewhere to twiddle their thumbs until it vests and they leave.
- Yup — seen many ppl at the top get large equity then kick back and let the ppl below them do all the work. It’s also a game of survivor, they promote and keep their allies in the inner circle (also rest and vesters) and then let all the hard working ppl at the bottom slave away.
- Finding work life balance in finance is entirely dependent of what function of finance you work in. There are plenty of back office roles where you can consistently work 40 - 45 hours a week. If you're working in any transaction based role (IB, PE, Corp Dev) you will absolutely not find better balance than your current set up. What is your current role?
- Wells Fargo / IT kioF84moreI am not hourly and do not count hours. I do work from home as much as possible to offset extra work hours so I do not waste my time commuting. I also have a work smartphone which helps me balance my workload, even though it may appear to others I am a workaholic. If I can eliminate dozens of emails even on weeknights and weekends, it is worth it. Another trick is limiting meetings to 30 minutes and only attending what is necessary. I decline the majority of meetings I am sent. I aggressively manage my calendar daily and do not waste time.