Work VisaSep 19, 2018
Amazontertel

Would you supports real fix to the greencard queue if it meant cancelling in flight applications?

The current queue is a result of a big hole in the immigration law where it's way, way too easy to get an i140 approved. Most of the people with approved i140 are not really high quality immigrants. SOME are top engineers working at FANG-like tech companies, but a LOT are third rate applications from consulting chop shops. Suppose we got real reform for the process which would adopt a points system and eliminate the waiting queue for everyone. Would you support going through the existing queue and giving greencard ONLY to the people in the queue who qualify under a new, much tougher points system? In other words likely denying 80 percent of the applications and approving the top 20%. One way to accomplish this would be to introduce a new system but in parallel let the existing applicants continue under the current country cap rules, ie, the hundred years wait, and even make it longer by subtracting any visas awarded through the cap exempt points category (so the existing queue priority date might only regress). Within the existing queue the people who qualify under the new process with no country cap but a tough bar could immediately refile their application under the new rules, maybe get a waiver on the filing fee, and then get a quick greencard, while the non qualifying people would just languish for the next hundred years.

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Amazon ime&myself Sep 19, 2018

Your employment at FANG makes you koe qualified than others at a chop shop? I've worked for Infosys, a chop shop, a non- FANG company, and now at Amazon in that order. Trust me the work on the retail side of amazon is nothing i haven't seen before. Can't comment on aws as I have not worked for AWs. There are other companies that operate round the clock with global traffic with > 100 tps throughout.

Amazon tertel OP Sep 19, 2018

The good people at the chop shops should prove their worth by getting into better companies. I believe you some are there, and certainly on the flip side we have mishires at Amazon. But we'll statistically get better people by looking at which company's screening process they were able to get through.

Facebook coffee? Sep 19, 2018

There are proxies that can be used to determine how “qualified” you are; that’s the whole point of the merit system. It could include things like degree, salary (maybe normalize by location to some extent), research publications, etc.

Uber poorpool Sep 19, 2018

indian scam company like infosys is the root cause

Microsoft Eibfje Sep 19, 2018

And why do people keep posting about immigration policies that are not going to change 🤦🏻‍♂️

Uber jH3ndu Sep 19, 2018

Cancel existing H1bs with low income. <100k or 200k you name it.

CVS Health WhybutWait Sep 19, 2018

Who the fuck are you to decide that most of the i140 approved candidates are not high quality immigrants. USCIS (with all it's flaws) has approved their application as they are the authority. As far as your great idea is concerned, let's let the experts do their jobs in a fair legal, lasting manner rather fix something immediately and arrive at a similar/same problem, 20 years down the line. Glad you are not in any public service.

Amazon tertel OP Sep 19, 2018

The current rules, used to approve those applications, are a total joke. It would be a huge problem if the country cap weren't limiting it, and that's obviously more of a plug in a hole than a solution since it hurts the good people in the queue.

Intel HRC Sep 19, 2018

^^body shop aka WITCH employee spotted🙂

Uber jH3ndu Sep 19, 2018

I think we can simply implement a income heap. Every year N people with highest income in past Y years will be rewarded GC and pull out from the heap. All H1b applicants will be pushed to the heap if income higher than min. Existing H1bs with lowest income should be deported to keep the pool size less than fixed number.

PayPal Yokohama Sep 19, 2018

First clear the queue by giving the green card to everyone who is here irrespective of where they are working. It’s a tiny fraction of the US population. I am sure they will contribute to the economy positively! Then let the new policies kick in so that it makes sure it’s not misused like how it was done earlier!

Amazon tertel OP Sep 19, 2018

Why, I don't want to admit a bunch of low quality immigrants and thereby have to make other better applicants wait. Take only the good people from the queue and send the rest packing.

Xilinx miaomiaomi Sep 19, 2018

But But ... The top talents should had get O1 visa and EB1 GC.

Uber jH3ndu Sep 19, 2018

But it's not based on TC.

Amazon tertel OP Sep 19, 2018

Yeah O1 is based on completely meaningless stuff like PhD, awards and citations which if you are an SDE has absolutely nothing to do with whether you are good at your job. All you need to be an SDE in terms of qualifications is an undergrad degree in CS or a related engineering field and you don't even need that if you somehow learn CS fundamentals elsewhere. After that it's about your ability to deliver complex software and not whether you are good at school. No tech company hires you because you have some journal citations or patents if you can't leetcode and talk intelligently about scale, testing, and operations.

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Maga.. Sep 19, 2018

Chop shops from India have gamed the US immigration for decades and as a result you have to wait for 100 yrs for GC. To fix it USCIS should reevaluate the current I140 approvals and decline 3rd rate applications

Jet.com gtfoorgtfo Sep 19, 2018

Dude, every single one applicant is qualified when you look at the papers. You don’t know if a guy is trash unless you work with them for a while.

Jet.com gtfoorgtfo Sep 19, 2018

Make everyone fill out a questionnaire with only one question: “Is India a great country?” Those who answered yes should pack and leave. I’m hearing this BS almost every day.