workplaces with hacker spirit

Apple / Eng lmfaoapple
Jul 10 20 Comments

No offense to you TC hunters, but I’m getting tired of the corporate mentality at Apple of produce at all cost and the expense of shitty code and processes and no cool side projects. Amazon is the antithesis of a place I’d like to work. I don’t care what the bar to entry is - what companies have the old school hacker spirit - more nice nerds/interesting characters/projects at the expense of the business/etc. less corporate types and anal middle managers. Is this a pipe dream? Is google the closest to this?

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  • Amazon broke&dumb
    If clean pristine neat code actually helped make a business better then all corporations would be insisting on that.
    It just happens to be the case that quick hacky code delivered sooner is better for profits than clean pristine code delivered later. Requirements change literally every day.
    Any company that does what you want won't survive long.
    Jul 10 3
    • Tableau / Eng
      ZeroKooll

      Tableau Eng

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      Microsoft
      ZeroKoollmore
      No, it is just harder to find people that make good code, and it doesn't make sense if you work like a factory, with thousands of people coming and going.
      Jul 10
    • Nvidia HKCN11
      I think if your company is more focused on maintaining an already good product than innovating and adding features, then they're more likely to care about good code. When people are focused on deadlines for delivering entirely new products, they tend to lose sight of good practices, especially when faced with intractable bugs.
      Jul 10
    • Tableau / Eng
      ZeroKooll

      Tableau Eng

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      Microsoft
      ZeroKoollmore
      There's perfect (you will never ship), there's good (you added 80 features), there's rushed (you added 100 features and a lot of debt) and there's terrible (you added 100 features, but your engineers suck)
      Jul 10
  • Apple MyYO05
    Google is just as bad. They just hide it better.

    Go find a no name startup.
    Jul 10 1
    • Goldman Sachs fake engineer
      Pretty sure startup code could be even worse though :P
      Jul 10
  • Salesforce wlb—Apple
    Sadly yahoo used to be like that. Was very well respected for its hacker culture.
    Jul 10 3
    • Apple / Eng lmfaoapple
      OP
      I had a former manager from yahoo at one point, very cool guy/innovative projects
      Jul 10
    • Salesforce wlb—Apple
      Dave? :)
      Jul 10
    • Apple / Eng lmfaoapple
      OP
      Heh no, but good to know there are other cool guys floating around the company
      Jul 10
  • Google oYyO40
    I think it's possible at Google still but not common
    Jul 10 0
  • Marvell elkdead
    Hacker spirit? Who has time for that? Everyone is out there to make money. You have hacker spirit do it after your job, many do.
    Jul 10 0
  • Salesforce wlb—Apple
    How is your WLB at Apple?
    Jul 10 3
    • Apple / Eng lmfaoapple
      OP
      Pretty bad, dev project run and operated by devs so feature work and constant noisy on-call, we also just hired some workaholic pricks and a bunch of cooler devs left for startup and google
      Jul 10
    • Salesforce wlb—Apple
      Which org is this?
      Jul 10
    • Apple / Eng lmfaoapple
      OP
      Can’t say, technically secret
      Jul 10
  • Amazon ?!😊🙃
    Without business case, there are no jobs. Don’t you think everyone wants that magical place where there is no pressure, only personal fulfilment?

    Sadly, Santa doesn’t exist.
    Jul 10 2
    • Apple / Eng lmfaoapple
      OP
      The amazon comments just reinforce why I don’t want to work there lmfao
      Jul 10
    • Chan Zuckerberg Initiative advantageZ
      It’s called philanthropy
      Jul 10
  • Salesforce Gdien71
    Business is driving everything.. why not create ur own side project and work on the stuff you want to work on? You may end up creating a good product which u can sell later.
    Jul 10 0