HousingDec 28, 2022
MetazuckBuc

$2M++ house on visa and borderline performance.

New M1 manager here. Marked an engineer Needs support - they survived layoffs. Have given enough feedback that they are on the borderline MM to MA-, asked them to keep all options open and have backup job search going. With 16.5% quota - the engineer would most likely be MM to meet the distribution. The engineer is on visa and told me that the person made an offer for a $2M+ house and it’s accepted now and they are planning to purchase it. Q3 touch point feedback - clearly called out all the gaps, peer feedback calls out gaps, showed them leveling document that calls our gaps and where they aren’t meeting expectations. What else is missing from my side??

Amazon GanjaShark Dec 28, 2022

Them buying a house and being on visa shouldn’t be a factor here. You seem to have done all you should. Dude that’s buying 2M house should figure out their performance first. It’s on them and not on you.

VMware 05edwzzw Dec 28, 2022

Most probably that guy has checked out from Meta and taking interview prep most of the time.

Amazon real_man Dec 29, 2022

Yeah him buying a house or any other non work related factors should not affect his performance rating… if he is shitty at work it doesn’t matter if is a saint feeding lots of kids at an orphanage … he could still be fired… my point being his performance assessment should be logical and relevant

Amazon cHeV Dec 28, 2022

Your TC on the post

Capital One hmmm1237 Dec 28, 2022

Noob manager wants to handle team members finances. Get a life and a hobby. Does ur ceo care ?

Lyft upxm26 Dec 29, 2022

Stop BS. OP isn't controlling team members finances. He/she is just worried about team members finances as he knows the risk with their employment

Capital One hmmm1237 Dec 29, 2022

Lyft - get ur glasses and read again. Not going to explain what is written - I charge $$$ for it.

Google jggjbgfcj Dec 28, 2022

What’s the engineers TC and YOE?

Affirm tJqY24 Dec 28, 2022

What are MM and MA-?

Meta quitters Dec 28, 2022

Meets most Meets all (this is defined as a spectrum when larger orgs need to bucket more into mm) So when org has too few ee than ma+ moves up If too few mm than ma- gets moved down

NVIDIA bluegene13 Dec 28, 2022

Are they a good engineer? Can they do the work. You don’t need a rockstar. Just someone to do the work. Don’t be too hard

Meta Frof61 Dec 28, 2022

I mean sure. Unless you HAVE to mark someone as not meeting expectations and manage people like that out. If they're the lowest performing person then that means doing the work isn't enough. Has nothing to do with if the manager is too hard on them or not. A good manager would be plain with them, a shitty one would try not to be hard on them and then they get blindsided when they're put on pip, fired, or layed off.

LinkedIn ffxxbmitd Dec 29, 2022

That’s not how this works. Someone will always be the lowest performing person. There will never be anything that can be done to ensure no one is the lowest performing. Even if the whole team exceeds expectations, someone has to be the lowest performing.

JPMorgan Chase dmLH07 Dec 28, 2022

Any position in your team, I need manager like you.

Roku airzhu Dec 28, 2022

Why do you care their financials?

Lyft upxm26 Dec 29, 2022

They care for team members future. It's true that several people haven't come to norms on what's going on with economy. This mindless buying is what causes recession.

Roku airzhu Dec 29, 2022

Performance review / pip should have nothing to do with whether the person bought a house or not! If buying a house can make one immune to pip, everyone will do so

Nestle v3hyL! Dec 28, 2022

Some people have extremely low self-awareness and when you give feedback and call out gaps, they will either take it as a recommendation or blame the company that they have unrealistic expectations. If they decide to purchase a house knowing there are layoffs everywhere and they are not meeting the expectations, not much you can do.

Walmart Packer Dec 28, 2022

How long has the engineer been at Meta? If he gets MM now, he has one more year to improve his rating from MM, right? After 2 MMs, I believe they’re piped

Meta Frof61 Dec 28, 2022

That's not how it works anymore. People are supposed to be aggressively managed out if not meeting expectations. And then end of year there's a quota for MM and lower, which if you've already managed people out throughout the year can be used as part of quota.

Walmart Packer Dec 28, 2022

I understand there is a quota now, but don’t folks still need 2 consecutive MMs before they’re pipped?