Looking for the deepest possible answer. Marriage as a institution didn’t even seem to exist for much of human history. Also when it was first adopted, it seemed to be more of a financial thing. Even the idea of marriage for love seems to have been adopted not too long ago, you probably know/knew someone that knew someone that was alive when marriage for love first became a thing. I see arguments for it being a big commitment to someone else, which I can understand as that other person acts as your #1. However this is possible even without tying all your assets. And if you wanted specific things like them being able to handle medical situations, you can just sign those separately. Seen as committing more strongly to someone in general? I might be portraying it poorly, but it feels kind of like driving without seatbelts to force yourself to drive more safely. Lower taxes / lower loan rates? Maybe, but even in this situation the higher earner assumes more risk in the event of divorce. Also for kids, the origin seems to be more farm hands or workers. However these days I see a couple things: From a logical standpoint: can’t guarantee your kids will take care of you or even give a shit about you when your old. Maybe it’s a trade off for risking saving more money to take care of yourself, or trust you’ll have kids that will. From a emotional standpoint it seems to be the ‘joy’ / whole point of some parents lives. Maybe since I’m not a parent I don’t understand, but I do feel a weird circular void here. TC: 💍 #dating #marriage #relationships
It's an instinct. You have kids because the genes for wanting to have kids greatly outcompeted the ones that did not want to have kids.
Interestingly makes sense to me logically. What about the marriage part though
That's a very pragmatic mechanism for ensuring clearly who gets what after the death of parents. Marriage arose in all cultures that track property, land or livestock. Before that, in communes, it was not unanimous. Bastards get nothing, and legitimate children get lands/livestock. Prevents fighting every generation by formally encoding the protocol for inheritance.
This topic has been discussed ad infinitum on Blind. Doubt anyone will have anything new to add here.
If you want to live the way humans lived before marriage then of course don't marry. Do not use man made contraceptives. Living alone in jungle is the way to go.
I used to be indifferent when it comes to kids. But after I have a kid, I am the happiest I have been in my life. Happier than getting US citizenship.
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Marriage and kids is not about money and relationships. Don't relate them if you want happy life. Tomorrow you might lose all your money or become a billionaire, your relationships dont change. Forget about guarantee on kids looking after you. You need to teach them the value of relationships. Rest will follow. You can teach values only if you detach money and assets from the equation. This holds true for marriage relationship or kids/parents relationship. If you aak why marriage is needed to have same level of commitment. Why not? If you love someone so much you should also be ready to go bankrupt for them.
Marriage is pointless and a trap as you said. Good partner makes marriage worthy. Bad partner destroys you from inside. If divorce occurs - more than 50 percent possibility, you will lose a lot. Yeah it is risky.
It’s much less than 50% if you’re both educated
I don’t have kids yet, but want to in the future and don’t expect or want them to take care of me. A kid’s job is to have their own life and do even better than I did (I know this mentality doesn’t exist in all cultures, but it’s how I see it).
What’s the point of you having the kid then? This just answers their life.
Yes exactly. The point of having a kid is to give them life and once they are born, they’re the #1 priority. That’s the cycle of life, to bring something good into the world.