What benefit did Facebook (Meta) get from preferring visa holders?
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-labor-departments-reach-settlements-facebook-resolving-claims-discrimination-against If Facebook (Meta) doesn’t pay immigrant visa holders less, what is (was?) the point of deterring or refusing to consider US Citizens? “Facebook routinely refused to recruit, consider or hire U.S. workers, a group that includes U.S. citizens, U.S. nationals, asylees, refugees and lawful permanent residents, for positions it had reserved for temporary visa holders in connection with the PERM process” “in contrast to its standard recruitment practices, Facebook used recruiting methods designed to deter U.S. workers from applying to certain positions, such as requiring applications to be submitted by mail only; refused to consider U.S. workers who applied to the positions; and hired only temporary visa holders.” #h1b #h1bdata #perm
Visa holders are apparently much easier to control.
Because they lack the same options to switch employers? Cultural norms?
I’m guessing this is due to the requirement to set up a job posting to find a US candidate for the job as a requirement of the green card (PERM) application submission. If that’s the case, at that point, Meta already has a working employee for the given position (the PERM process generally starts at least 6 months++ into the job) and they just want the PERM process to be done - so they make the “posting job application as a requirement” part hard to apply. So no… it’s not a conspiracy theory or anything mentioned above. US candidates can still apply through regular recruitment process.
In literal sense of the law, every company that helps immigrants on their green cards does some kind of visa fraud. This is because of how the system is stacked. You have to run a sham recruitment process for the PERM. There are some hiring managers who don’t feel confident enough to manage white engineers. But in general, I don’t feel that the system is against the US citizens. In my experience, they are more likely to get the jobs in big tech as compared to an immigrant with equivalent tech skills. This is mostly because of their vastly better communication skills.
If the PERM job posting requirement is designed to make sure there is no suitable US Worker otherwise available, it never achieves that goal because employers are too invested in the worker already on their payroll?
Yes. And companies are justified in being more invested in workers already on their payroll. The PERM process needs an overhaul.
They work about 2-3x more than an american citizen in fear of being deported. Do you see the 60 day posts on linkedin? Fear is beneficial to the corporations. It is a win-win for them.
This is talking about the lawsuit which meta settled by passing paying some money. The settlement cleared them off any wrong doing, but they agreed to amend the recruitment process. The text of the lawsuit as well the quoted text here says their regular recruitment was perfectly fine. The PERM recruitment here is done after an employee has been hired and is working with the company. This process is dictated by the department of labor and requires them to publish news paper ads etc. There is no company in the US which uses this government mandated recruitment steps to actually hire people.
The abuse they’re willing to tolerate
This lawsuit was bs, at least for SWEs/EMs. I worked in recruiting, and decision makers had no visibility into who was on visas. Recruiting was incentivized to hire anyone who could pass the technicals. If anything visa holders took a bit longer to join. All you have to do is look at our process to realize engineering wasn't favoring visa candidates.
They wanted perm to be paused to immobilize visa holders after a massive hiring spree. Conspiracy theory.
996 slaves
Slaves
Highly compensated slaves?
lol slaves that get actually paid aren’t slaves at all