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Offers (mid level, L4 and ICT3) in South Bay Google - 155 base, 300 RSU, 15% bonus and 35k sign on (258 TC + 35 first year) Apple - 170 base, 250 RSU, 8% bonus and 40k sign on (246 TC + 40 first year) Which offer should I take? iOS role 2 yoe in iOS, 3 yoe frontend Are these offers fair? Should I attempt to negotiate up more? Also have Twitter, LinkedIn and Airbnb onsites.
Which org/team within Apple?
Media frameworks, analytics
If that is part of Apple Media Products then you got a great offer
Were you tested heavily on DS/Algo or iOS?
Yes, almost 80-90% for DS&A
Google hands down for anything not kernel platform or hardware. You will learn from the best, the infrastructure is better and yes having worked at both, the smarter colleague statement is very true. Furthermore, there is something about Google’s collaborative open design and doc based culture that fosters better analytical reasoning. Something that is COMPlETELY missing at Apple
Why kernel platform not good
It’s not the best in terms of process craftsmanship quality and culture. Apple beats it by miles and the products testify to this strongly
If it is an iOS position, the Apple tools at google are really bad.
What do you mean by Apple tools? Frameworks?
Google uses internal tooling and infrastructure for building and CI. It does not use Xcode the way it is intended to. Also the google code base is way too big for Xcode to handle.
What does high ict 3 mean? TC wise? Or capability wise?
Idk just what recruiter said
I think it means I did well in interviews and I’m not entry level 😂
If you're looking for high TC then wait until you get LinkedIn and Airbnb offers. Apple stock also have a higher possibility than G's to spike again. Refreshers are also great.
Hehe this comment didn't age well?
No it really did not looking at past 6 months GOOG vs APPL
For your IOS career consideration, Apple is better. I was a fan of AWS before I join Amazon, and I did get tons of industry’s insights because I work there. Also, I decide to quit because I finished my reason. I can’t find any reason for you to choose Google if you are a fan of IOS and the TC is not very different.
Ended up getting Airbnb offer. Was able to get Google to 276 TC and 30k signing so I chose that.
Congrats! Did you have to show proof of competing offer to Google? If so how did you do that?
Op thanks for updating! Very rare but good to do
Apple. No second thoughts.
L4 total 5YOE?
Yes
L5 at google might take 2 years, decide accordingly.