I am debating whether I should take another quarter before I graduate to do an Adobe SDE internship (Lehi but wfh SF if converted FT) or should I graduate on time and take a full time offer for SWE ServiceNow (Santa Clara) on an apps team. Which place has better career growth and overall TC? This is for Software Engineering roles. Thank you strangers of the internet! Current TC: None (student)
Unless Adobe has assurance converting into FT, I would chose SNOW regardless of anything for now.
Should I accept SNOW and renege if I get a return from Adobe? For Adobe I'd be working on their new Enterprise products and my manager said that all his previous interns got converted full time. Not sure if that implies assurance conversion but it did give me hope
Of course you can renege without burning any bridge. To me assurance only means something is written on paper or email. I am on visa 🥲
Did you enjoy your work on the apps team over the summer? Fwiw, i chose NOW over Adobe and some other tech companies. Don’t regret it so far.
The work itself was boring but I will admit the team wlb was good due to this. If you don't mind me asking, what team are you on and what did you like about your job/NOW? If you'd rather discuss this over messages I can DM you!
Sure DM
Always pick a full time over internship. That's real world experience, not to mention stability
NOW products are very platform based so I'm not sure how much technical dev experience I'd gain in regards to the real world. I could have a wrong opinion though because experience is still experience?
I can’t speak for apps team but I’m on platform and it’s all solid real world experience since we build the platform itself as opposed to working on top of it
Now that I’m several years in my career, I wish I had know this earlier but its in your best interest NOT to take an internship if you expect it to turn FT and here’s why: Your pay is forever going to be fcked as long as you stay there. I’ve seen it happen time and time again at every company I’ve worked at. Scenario example: Lisa, an intern, was making 70k a year and when they graduated to become an Associate designer, they offered 80k. Alex, Someone who is new and never was an intern, will get offered 95k for the same job. Because the company doesnt know what Alex was making at his last job so alex has more leverage. But the company knows how much Lisa made cuz she was an intern so they can lowball her. Alex’s earning potential is a lot higher and as Alex and Lisa both climb the ladder, Lisa will never catch up to Alex for doing the same job.
I have plenty of SN colleagues who were here since they were interns and the salary they make is absolute peanuts compared to myself and everyone else who came in new. Most have left for other companies, and the rest are planning to leave soon.
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