Office LifeNov 15, 2018
Autodesk!Arrogant

Am I being arrogant? Or right?

I feel like I’m surrounded by a few smart people, many dumb people, and all of them are made exponentially more ineffective by the Peter principle, organizational design, incentives misalignment and having to handle too much of old organizational baggage. Some of this, I need to learn to handle. But most of it, I don’t see a purpose in learning how to navigate. 80% of the time, I just shake my head and get on with my job. And day-dream about how this would not happen at my own company. But every time I do this, I am getting more and more demotivated. And losing confidence in myself. I used to be confident and humble. Now I’m neither confident, and not sure whether I’m humble anymore. Am I being arrogant? How do I judge whether I need more humility or more assertiveness? (I’m looking for jobs, but am hampered by visa regulations. I’m also advising startups. This post is not about finding a new job or starting up, but about self-awareness.)

LinkedIn howd Nov 15, 2018

What's the Peter principle?

Daimler Semic Nov 15, 2018

Rising to levels of incompetence

LinkedIn Gill Bates Nov 15, 2018

Shit floats to the level at which it is incompetent enough to be promoted further.

Microsoft lqEl76 Nov 15, 2018

I vote arrogant. The more time passes the more I realise how I underestimated people in the past.

Autodesk !Arrogant OP Nov 15, 2018

Thanks for your response! Can you please elaborate on what you meant by underestimating? Maybe examples?

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EBkL16 Nov 15, 2018

The best way to find out is to collect more information. All companies have political and organizational overhead, and the amount of that scales with company size. Maybe the company you're at has more nonsense than the average, or maybe you think you could do better because you've never been in the position to direct a company's structure and culture, and are underestimating the difficulty of that task. The only way to know for sure is to experience lots of different corporate structures, and see for yourself where autodesk falls in terms of organizational efficiency. Also, startups, corporate, and consulting all have different challenges, and, depending on your personality, you may be more suited to one of these than the other two. IMO it's good that you're thinking about this kind of stuff, a passion for creating companies that work well at every level is one trait of a good executive. The next step is to feed that question with experience

Autodesk !Arrogant OP Nov 15, 2018

Thanks for your response! I’m trying to figure out which culture I’m best suited to (startups, corporate and consulting) and I’m forming my opinions. I guess your point about data collection is spot on - I do have a lot more data with different experiences. But is there a proxy to this data, that I can use instead of spending years on getting more data about how I should NOT be doing something? E.g. I’ve now understood how critical it is to have he right decision making structures / culture in place, but also I only have a reference to what NOT to do. I can only think of two ways to get that knowledge of what I should be doing: either join a company with better quality management, or go for an MBA. Or are there other sources of this knowledge (e.g. a management quality index?)

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EBkL16 Nov 15, 2018

There are signals of well managed companies, like financial performance and glassdoor, but no, there's no really accurate proxy (figuring this kind of stuff out about companies is what VCs and traders spend their careers doing). You could use your network to figure out which companies have good culture, then get referrals to interview there. But when it comes down to it, there's no substitute for experience when it comes to figuring this stuff out

Citibank Qhi10 Nov 15, 2018

A poll recently conducted asking if you considered yourself a good driver and if you considered others bad. A majority chose they were good drivers and everyone else was a bad driver. Likely the same issue here. You’re likely average to less than average intelligence along with the majority of those around you. It’s not arrogance so much as human nature.

Autodesk !Arrogant OP Nov 15, 2018

That’s not a recent poll, it’s well documented as the Dunning Kruger effect. And I’m aware of that, which is why I’m asking this question in the first place. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

Citibank Qhi10 Nov 15, 2018

In that case you’re likely both arrogant and have lower than average intelligence relative to your peers.

Uber Uber| Nov 15, 2018

Come to Uber, and these Uber boy will show you their true color

Citibank Qhi10 Nov 15, 2018

Facebook and Uber seems like a great place if you’re blinded by your arrogance and enjoy the smell of your own farts.

Microsoft Blkman Nov 15, 2018

You control the responses you give to the situations u are in. Observe, learn, don’t judge and accept.

Citibank Qhi10 Nov 15, 2018

Mom, is that you on blind????? Damn, now blind jumped the shark.

Microsoft Blkman Nov 15, 2018

You can thank me for not spending 5+ hours a week on Blind😀

LinkedIn Zeiwkf5 Nov 15, 2018