Am I the only one not making $100K+?

GPS Insight / Eng
Phosky

GPS Insight Eng

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Phoskymore
Jul 23, 2018 237 Comments

Average (at best) SDET here, in my 40s. TC right now is maybe $90K? Base salary is 70 in Phoenix AZ. It seems like I'm the only one on Blind who isn't making six figures. I mean there's gotta be more people out there like me who barely skate by lol in fact during my next performance review I'm honestly going to ask for a pay cut because I don't feel like I bring enough to the table to warrant my meager salary. Where are my fellow underachievers? 😅

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TOP 237 Comments
  • Amazon / Eng ownsnan
    how are you 40 yet don’t understand cost of living
    Jul 23, 2018 3
  • Kaneva Player-1
    Dude, Phoenix cost of living is maybe 30percent of Bay Area.
    Jul 23, 2018 8
    • Reddit usj8js
      PDX @ 84% of the Bay Area, LOL! Median 2br rent in PDX is ~$1800 vs $4500 in SF. Car registration is hundreds a year vs. $86 for 2 years. California has ~10% sales tax. There’s no way. 50% maybe.
      Jul 23, 2018
    • Why would you flip the order for car registration? You monster!
      Jul 23, 2018
  • Salesforce Dndudid
    Not making $100k TC in your 40s is pretty bad for having software development skills. Did you go to a 4 year college?
    Jul 23, 2018 16
    • Facebook Buddy Guy
      If you have skills and experience, no one cares about a degree. You're better off spending those years working someplace where you can get paid to grow.
      Jul 23, 2018
    • Microsoft loljesus
      Yes.
      Jul 23, 2018
  • Deloitte / Other _👨🏻‍💻_
    Moreover not everything said here is the truth..
    Jul 23, 2018 6
    • New YVad32
      No. Any legit tech company reviews their financial structure on a quarterly basis, tc stock appreciation would be included in any basic financial model public or private.

      Example #1 of the bs u see on here.
      Jul 23, 2018
    • New YVad32
      All relevant current & future Comp data is reported to forecast costs
      Jul 23, 2018
  • VMware / Eng nonamehere
    Arizona isn’t expensive. Overall. So you need to understand the difference here of posters.
    Jul 23, 2018 4
    • Adobe wqKr43
      Not saying equal - but expensive enough it has to factored in specially for the region (e.g. a single person could easily spend $250-300/mo on electricity - family more like $500-600)
      Jul 23, 2018
    • LinkedIn Zeiwkf5
      At those prices it seems like solar panels would be a no brainer, especially given how sunny it is
      Jul 23, 2018
  • Deloitte / Other _👨🏻‍💻_
    I know of atleast 20+ others who don’t make 100K in TC.. This is in the Boston area Alone.
    Jul 23, 2018 0
  • Lazard fin/tech
    Dude, blind is a microcosm of the top 10% of people in tech... Most people don't work at the companies that people do here and most people don't make the kind of money that people do here.

    If you're happy with your lot then be content, otherwise, upskill and move to a company that competes in the 75th+ percentile of the market.
    Jul 23, 2018 4
    • Lazard fin/tech
      Engineers at the top tech firms (private and public), up and coming startups, innovation centres w/in nontech companies and top financial firms probably equates to top 10-15% of all engineers.

      ~3.6m engineers and 300-400k in the top end of the market sounds about right. Microsoft alone has 50k+ engineers. Google probably 30k+. Amazon.. a lot
      Jul 24, 2018
    • DoorDash XNjp26
      Given the 3.6m figure which I checked just now, I'd say blind then is top maybe 2-3% of that at best? One should keep in mind that within these companies only a smallish subset of engineers actually use Blind (anyone care to ballpark %?). In top 5 market cap tech companies looks like there are ~150k swes.
      Jul 24, 2018
  • Microsoft gEFg84
    Two things.
    1) You’re in Phoenix where cost of living is nothing compared to Bay Area or Seattle.
    2) Your attitude. You wonder why you are making less yet you consider even your current role one where you’re “barely skating by” to the point where you say you’re going to ask for a pay cut. If you don’t think you’re worth more then other people won’t either. That said, just like many on Blind seem to value their worth as human beings by the worth of their high TC, I get the vibe from you that you’re almost... proud... of your low TC.

    Seems like a victim mentality, you have all the tools and background to perform better at your job and increase your value over time both to yourself and your employer, but it doesn’t seem like you want to do either. My two cents.
    Jul 23, 2018 4
    • Salesforce uTTA76
      If someone told you they'd been half-assing it, would you keep them on staff? No, you'd start thinking they're not invested in their job or they want to work part-time. And that you've seriously overestimated your needs. Either way, doesn't bode well for your tenure at the company. But if you're set financially, who cares.
      Jul 23, 2018
    • Deloitte dex
      Everyone's jealous you're happy OP
      Jul 24, 2018
  • Uber xFRu48
    Bay Area - The land of middle class millionaires.
    Jul 23, 2018 2
    • Google / Eng
      Yottabyte

      Google Eng

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      Yottabytemore
      And Boulder Colorado, Kirkland and Redmond Washington, NYC, orange county ca.... a million isn't what is used to be.
      Jul 23, 2018
    • Zapier zipidy
      Except it can be. Take Orange county. Anaheim has a median house price of 600kish. Irvine 850k. San Fran 1.3 million. The problem is the housing prices and what people have been willing to ratchet up to pay.
      Jul 23, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng Amazonieer
    I lived in Phoenix and Bay area both. 90k is good to live in Phoenix. Cost of living is 50% cheaper than bay area. Bay area 200k will not provide quality of life which Phoenix will provide in 100k. Don’t be part of rat race where TC of random anonymous people define success. I am moving back to Phoenix to join a startup. I will have better life there even after taking pay cut.
    Jul 23, 2018 3
    • Amazon / Eng Amazonieer
      Google “Bay area Exodus”.
      Jul 23, 2018
    • Expedia l33tz0r
      Homeless in PHX are golden brown delicious
      Jul 23, 2018

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