How does the amazon 2 pizza rule work in practice. If I'm hungry, I can eat two pizzas myself, does this mean I'm a 1 man team?
It doesn’t. The two pizza team thing is the exception.
I think 🤔 probably they meant to keep the upper bound.
It is just used to imply that your team size should not be very big. Big teams doesn't work productivity.
I agree
There are 17 people in my team with 12 dev, we work pretty and our manager is awesome. I think when teams grow a lot depends on the quality of the manager.
I hope it works - as Apple copied it and we now have 1 manager for every 3 or 4 developers.
Thats a very copy 🙁 This micro-management is whats making Amazon worst
You would be both TT and Needs Improvement at the same time
Guess have to start my peloton routine again
... but then gain all the fat back at the start of each year.
Our devs were starving. 2 pizzas for several dozens of engs.
You just have to be frugal and share. And of course the bottom 6% get no pizza.
I just went out and bought my own 2 pizzas. Feels gud
Real talk though, this idea is garbage and also it really doesn’t work that way. It’s built on the premise that each team has autonomy and can move quickly, except for the fact that all teams have to writes docs for VPs and require their blessing. It’s always why AWS services don’t work like a platform and in many instances overlap or have even some competing offerings. It also doesn’t create a unified AWS experience and merely reflects an internal fragmented organization
I think a lot of work needs to go in for the right team size and management. Used to be in a huge team with minimal managers, and tbh we didn't even know what some people were working on. Manager was too swamped with her own work and when we did end up hiring more managers we went down to the 2 pizza size teams just like amzn
Amazon operates like a collection of start ups.
I think teams of 6-8 are good so the manager can take on most of the planning and administrative burden while providing good leadership based on deep understanding of the product.
Yes. You'd occupy a similar amount of physical space as a team too. And cost your employer a similar amount in healthcare costs. It all works out. Jeff thought about all of this already.
Nice! I always wanted a private office