Tech IndustryAug 15, 2023
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Amazon Culture Nose Dive?

6+ year Sr. Manager at AWS. Really not the same place I started working at. Seems with the hiring freeze, layoffs, targeted firings, and promotion of those that have zero empathy and care only about URA and LE, Amazon is deliberately turning into a shitty place to work to correct for overhiring. The most talented folks (who are the most Amazonian too) are first to look for the door because they can. Sign of the times? Intentional business decisions to reduce HC? Or side effect of terrible middle management? Really (really) doesn't feel like earth best employer. #AWS #Amazon

Altimetrik totalcomp👮‍♀️ Aug 15, 2023

lol wasn’t it always a shitty place?

Amazon PqpJ3u OP Aug 15, 2023

I was pretty happy there years ago. Maybe I was just naive. Or the company showed who it really was with the economic downturn.

Roblox Broblox Aug 15, 2023

No, places like Roblox and Atlassian have taken nose dives. Amazon has been cruising at that level for decades.

Square HUqx81 Aug 15, 2023

Whats changed at Atlassian? Almost joined a bit more than a year ago

Roblox Broblox Aug 15, 2023

I heard from various folks on blind that it is becoming Amazon-lite.

Amazon ahebeixo Aug 15, 2023

It’s horrible. I’ve been desperately trying to leave but the market is so bad. I’ve never had an issue getting interviews before but now i am getting none. I feel so stuck, so stupid, and so depressed

Comcast TechysP Aug 15, 2023

I believe that is all of us that work at AWS

Microsoft taskmonkey Aug 15, 2023

Everyone takes a nose dive. Shitty place just become worse.

Amazon Mentorship Aug 15, 2023

Having worked at shittier companies, I can handle whatever is happenening in Amazon. My previous jobs were like sweatshops for developers.

Zillow Group zzzttt2 Aug 15, 2023

Give us some company names so that we can stay away

Microsoft MStillHere Aug 16, 2023

Startups?

Meta 6lindus3r Aug 15, 2023

Amazon has always had a reputation of being the worst of the top tech employers. What's actually different now? Worst manager I ever had was ex Amazon and fit the stereotype.

Google zOKe30 Aug 15, 2023

Most big companies have absolutely killed their culture. It’s pretty sad really. I used to hear so many stories of how great it was working for FAANG companies and now they’re all so lame

Google Hageudj Aug 15, 2023

Beyond lame it's almost as if they seek an adversarial relationship with their employees.

Amazon Bello674 Aug 21, 2023

PIP Factory here….. never heard the stories of how great it was but can confirm it’s lame & the HeadCount hate from LE-adership is strong.

Amazon tikrambaaz Aug 15, 2023

Completely agree with OP. I have been at Amazon for 6+ years and can totally say that it feels very top-down now. Day-Two is finally here!

Amazon robbStark8 Aug 15, 2023

Same. Agree. 6+ years and the difference between now and the first two years that I was here is insane. It’s so much more top-down now and middle managers are only interested in managing upwards. Customer obsession out the door.

Zillow Group zzzttt2 Aug 15, 2023

Do your part and get out of this mess. Otherwise you’ll be considered as complicit. TBH, most companies like mine don’t want to hire Amazon managers esp the ones that have a long tenure there. So take it as a friendly advice

Amazon pgmamz Aug 15, 2023

What is URA & LE?

Amazon PqpJ3u OP Aug 15, 2023

URA = Unregretted Attrition. We don't mind seeing you go. Target is 6% for all of Amazon (for sure at AWS anyway). LE is Least Effective. For AWS stack ranking that is usually around 8-10%. The 'recommended' number is lower, but management targets that. You are the bottom of the performance barrel relative to your peers. No RSU, go into focus. It's a pipeline to URA as well.