Amazon L5 offer evaluation
I received initial offer from the recruiter for a L5 Full stack developer position at Amazon. The position is not SWE and is a Fullstack development for internal systems in SAP. Please advise me whether this is a decent offer for the position and how to negotiate for a better package. Initial offer: Base: 135K Joining bonus: 120K RSU: 1052 TC: ~210K Location: Seattle Relocation: Not applicable Current TC: 170K Yoe: 12
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How is Full stack development not equivalent to SWE?
Op, add more info. Location.. if you are moving.. etc
Done
Target for base 160 and push the sign to 150
I’m confused what this position even is. It’s obviously not SDE like you said, 210k is way too low for that. It would help if you can share the actual job title. If you’re working in SAP then.. have fun lmao
The job title is SAP developer (L5). Base pay range in job description is between 92k - 185k
Ah. Had no idea we even had that role so idk what’s reasonable
You can bring that number to $250k - $260k. Pay folks to do the negotiation for you if you have to but don’t settle. $160k-$170k base for L5 is what I got but it was in AWS.
This isn’t an SDE role. External hire at L5 SDE will be in the 280-300 range these days.
Weak offer. L5 doing software development (regardless of this title that I've not heard of) should be at least 170 base. The RSUs are also very low (should be 2k minimum). Typically you'd want to leverage the RSUs during negotiation to trade them for more base (since you will most likely get PIPd or quit before your 4 years are up). Idk if they're justifying this given the title or if this is just how cheap the Zon has become after the pandemic hiring spree.
How is not SWE, genuinely curious what their distinction is?
It is SAP. Even though title is SwE, it is more in the lines of... SAP full stack developer. It is tied to SAP domain