Amazon New Grad Offer
#engineering #software #swe #newgrad I would like your input on this. I've some pretty terrible reviews on Amazon but their offer does seem appealing compared to my current situation with the startup I work with. For context, my startup hired me last February at 88k with about 40k worth in equity at the current valuation vested over a period of 4 years. They promoted me two weeks ago with a raise in base to 100k and equity now to 50k. (I don't know the number of shares just the total amount in the current valuation.) When I told them I might be leaving for Amazon they offered me another bump in base to 120k. I like working for them, I've got unlimited PTO that they encourage me to use frequently and other nice perks. I really feel valued there and I like the product we are building. We didn't find market fit yet and we are in the middle of a pivot and have a little bit under 2 years of runway so I don't know if it will pan out. Amazon has an appealing singing bonus and a more stable stock (with pretty terrible vesting). I have been reading reviews here and sincerely I'm a little bit hesitant. The team I will be working with is under the physical stores org. It is called the Printing Infrastructure Engineering services. Doesn't seem super exciting work but maybe it is. What do you guys think, should I leave my current startup and go to Amazon? Edit: I actually got this offer from Amazon last year to start June 2023 but as you all know Amazon delayed their start dates. So my new start got pushed to December 2023, this is why I started working at my current startup earlier this year. Edit2: some folks said that I'm young (very correct 26), but I do have a small family already. (Wife and 2 kids). Letting this out there just to see if it changes the outlook on this.
Unlimited PTO isnt a perk, its a scam actually. Unlimited doesnt mean literally unlimited and its just an accounting and HR trick to not pay you out for unused PTO accruals if/when you leave (voluntarily or involuntarily)
Kind of. Some states do not require PTO payouts. CA does. It's really an accounting truck to keep unpaid PTO off your books as liabilities. And, w group pressure and management oversight, you still end up taking same or less PTO nonetheless.
More or less the same thing I said. Either way - still a scam and is not a perk for the employee
Since you said new grad, I assume you are in your early or mid 20s. Unless you have urgent cash needs, now is the time you can take risks in your career with very little consequences.
Or you can build your resume now with Zon to later use in your late 20s and early 30s to take more rewarding risk with.
@New By that time the risks greatly increase too. Early on in your career, equity is a very small portion of your TC. Later, it grows to become as much as 70-90%
On a side note though, I had a really good team and would return without thinking if offered. I did interact with horrible teams though, so if you loved your intern team, take the offer. Quality depends on team alot.
I’ve had a great exp but have interacted w bad teams this is good advice I’m very happy over all.
Is Amazon still hiring SWE new grads?
Edit: actually got this offer from Amazon last year to start June 2023 but as you all know Amazon delayed their start dates.
you are young. u can take a risk and get that Amazon on your resume, which is gonna help u a lot in future
Amazon brand name is not what it used to be. I will vote for Trinsic because the TC difference is negligible and you are already valued there instead of another generic SDE being fed into the meat grinder. You have a wife and kids, if you lose your job at Amazon will you be able to go back to Trinsic? I know someone in a similar situation with wife and kids who came to Amazon as SDE2 about 6 months ago and has been working 60+ hours a week to try and meet unrealistic demands with no help, now he is on the verge of PIP and he said his marriage is falling apart. YMMV. Just looking out for you. IMO Amazon brand is not THAT great, they employ a hell of a lot of people.
You sound like the person who claims the hiring bar has dropped after you have joined a company.
TC of Amz vs the startup is 50% different if you take in the amz bonus and dismiss the startup monopoly money equity. so not at all negligible.
Congrats, take amazon and get it on your resume
TBH nobody cares anymore if Amazon is on your resume. Just follow your gut. IMHO working at Amazon will make you useless in the outside world since they use very proprietary and obsolete tooling which may be working for their own stuff.
Is AWS considered proprietary and obsolete tooling? As far as I remember, there was a large internal shift to move towards dogfooding AWS. And even regardless, it’s the knowledge and experience you get handling issues that makes you valuable - not your knowledge of arbitrary tooling.
Hard disagree. Amazon sucks but is still definitely a resume booster
I think amazon has slightly more prestige than a no name start up. Get there, survive 18 months til economy improves then jump again for 50% more TC
Agreed with this advice
Woah, Amazon is giving new grad offers? When did you get offer? When did you intern? I got waitlisted sadly.
Actually got this offer from Amazon last year to start June 2023 but as you all know Amazon delayed their start dates.