Amazon hire to fire warning signs new grad

Are there any possible warning signs for new grads that could mean they were hired just to fire for pip quotas? I had to pass a 3 round on-site to get my offer and they are giving me a 22k signing bonus. Does that make it less likely that I was hired just to get fired? I'm excited to join Amazon but I think I might be reading too many blind posts about pip culture. TC : 180K YOE: 0 Loc: Austin SDE1 edit: Rip didn't expect this to make it to front page of blind. I will update whether or not I get pipped in 3 months and then again at my 1 year lol.

Amazon dhagajkzb Nov 21, 2021

Everyone is hire to fire. Just make sure you get your 2 year vest at least.

IBM hjilln OP Nov 21, 2021

Yeah I really just want to survive the 2 years

Amazon dhagajkzb Nov 21, 2021

Dm if you need advice.

Oracle mandate Nov 21, 2021

Your intuition is most likely correct. There are always exceptions but most I. Your cases, end up like that

LinkedIn kbyeeeee Nov 21, 2021

Location?

IBM hjilln OP Nov 21, 2021

Added. Austin

VMware 9ubt6fs3 Nov 21, 2021

Is the sign on given all at once or per month? If per month, they can PIP you after 3 months.

Google MSst11 Nov 21, 2021

Don’t read blind until 2 YoE.

IBM hjilln OP Nov 21, 2021

Good point. I should log tf off

Amazon -00- Nov 21, 2021

Don’t listen to him/her must be amazon HR transferred from google

Amazon -00- Nov 21, 2021

They will give u impossible project to complete and when u can’t deliver, will pip u in a snap of fingers. You are just a resource for them nothing else

Samsung johnReese9 Nov 21, 2021

How impossible could that get?🤔won't there be enough resources to tackle the challenge?

Amazon -00- Nov 21, 2021

Ok let’s take up a hypothetical scenario - you have a system in place it has a current TPS of 10, now you are presented with a requirement which needs 500 TPS in your system or a new system needs to built in your sister team which does the most of load shedding. Mind you this system has been designed by tenured engineers. Let me know how will u solve it ?

Barclays PLC whippanynj Nov 21, 2021

What's the clawback time on the signon. Tbh 22k sounds like itd still be counter productive to hire you and fire you. It's probably around that much or more to higher a new candidate. Never worked for AMZN tho

Amazon sideshobob Nov 21, 2021

No claw back at Amazon, sign on is paid out monthly

Walmart wlamart Nov 21, 2021

Not true, first year sign on is paid completely on the first month. Second year sign on is paid month by month.

Amazon qz177 Nov 21, 2021

Felt the same way. Just about my entire intern cohort was hired. Will not be too specific but it was for a tech role that's not as high bar as dev. Many people were struggling with the basics. It felt like they hired to fire.

IBM hjilln OP Nov 21, 2021

So since I have an SDE role I should have slightly better job security?

Amazon qz177 Nov 21, 2021

Uhm no that's not what I meant. I was just empathizing with you. I know what you mean when you say you fear they hired to fire. Unless you work for the government or are a tenured professor, I think the best/only job security is your skill set no matter the industry. It may not keep you a job at a specific company because lay offs/pip etc. but as long as you have indisputable skills you will always be able to find work hence *job security*

Amazon sozebpffej Nov 21, 2021

Don’t read into the negativity. Just read the people around you (mostly management) and ask probing questions to how you can better improve yourself. Generally if you show interest and you aren’t horrible it’ll be fine.

Amazon WWEEAE Nov 21, 2021

Amazon new grads are piped at 20% rate.

Amazon sozebpffej Nov 21, 2021

Probably to do with lack of real world experience and they aren’t taught what they need in school. Data structures and algorithms will only take you in the door.

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Amazon FLwO26 Nov 21, 2021

Tenured employees get pipped too, seems to get higher in the 3rd and 4th years though.

IBM hjilln OP Nov 21, 2021

Yeah but I would hope that they are pipping the people who only did an OA and a phone screen vs a full on-site.

Okta b5gf4s Nov 21, 2021

Blind is a cesspool of negative comments, I wouldn't read too much into it. Congratulations! Just go enjoy your job and do your best and try to learn as much as possible because the name Amazon on your resume will open many windows in the future.