Tech IndustryNov 16, 2021
AmazonCxxoqka

Amazon pays 300k+ for easy operation work

Just joined as SDE2 and getting paid 300k+ a year. My previous job post a lot of interesting challenges so I expected the same at Amazon. What I got is all brainless work, all operations, no innovation. 90% of time just follow the runbook. It’s so easy my cousin in high school could do the job. What happened to frugality? Hiring SDE2 and senior SDE with high TC just to do easy operations work doesn’t sound frugal to me. I know we’re supposed to take ownership and improve things so operations are easier, but if the previous engineers actually did that, why are we having so much operations to do? Golden recipe is create new thing, harvest impact and leave to avoid doing the boring maintenance work. New SDEs has to hold the bag and do the operations because the people that created the service all fucking left to avoid the operation. I don’t mind doing the brainless job because of the high TC but I am already bored. Going to leave as soon as I bag the TC for 1-2 year. Should’ve went with my Google offer with slightly less TC, they might be boring too but at least they don’t expect engineers to do ops work

Rapidapi abfcd Nov 16, 2021

Every company and job will have all sorts of work and somebody has to do it. If you are not interested then just leave. I don’t see any reason to complain :-S ? I’m confused here ..

Amazon Cxxoqka OP Nov 16, 2021

Every company has somebody that does the fun job too, why aim at the boring ones

Rapidapi abfcd Nov 16, 2021

You will enjoy more in a mid size or startup company. Big once are bets, you may end up with similar boring work.

VMware GSU-Holder Nov 16, 2021

do chill man or do LC and leave.

Google LSDPhoenix Nov 16, 2021

Isn't this how most tech is supposed to be?

Amazon Cxxoqka OP Nov 16, 2021

When I was working at previous company I got to do a lot of interesting work

Amazon Mudiji Nov 16, 2021

How much money did your earlier company make and how necessary was innovation to keep that revenue coming? Now ask the same questions about your team/product within Amazon. At the end of the day, a company pays you wht it thinks is necessary to keep growing. If it think cleaning manure is worth 500k a year, it will find someone who does it for 200k

Google hU48zl Nov 16, 2021

You shouldn't be feeling this way at Amazon...PIP coming?

Amazon Cxxoqka OP Nov 16, 2021

I don’t give a f, I was top tier IC in my previous company and I cleared 80% of my FAANG interviews. I can get a job as soon as I step out of the door

IBM rLeI77 Nov 16, 2021

I love your confidence. Keep it up!!

Microsoft vwyf Nov 16, 2021

Can’t wait to be like you later this month. Joining soon

Microsoft wayneruney Nov 18, 2021

TC?

Instacart 🥕🛒cart Nov 16, 2021

You are low balled, Amazon pays 400k for sde2 roles now

Amazon Cxxoqka OP Nov 16, 2021

Meh at least I make a lot more than internal promoted sde2 who have worked their ass off for it

Microsoft wayneruney Nov 18, 2021

That’s a lie

Amazon Jiufd Nov 16, 2021

The frugality is paying people that internally promote to L5 200k. Good thing I get 3 extra RSU's.... 2 years from now.

Microsoft wayneruney Nov 18, 2021

And a raise at annual rewards cycle which new employees will not be eligible for

Amazon Jiufd Nov 18, 2021

You generally don't get a raise your first year after being promoted. My time line for my next raise is the same as a new hire.

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Mars3826_6 Nov 16, 2021

Can anyone refer me to any of the FAANG. PM/Lead Agile roles?. 12+ yrs of Experience

Microsoft wayneruney Nov 18, 2021

I can to MSFT or AMZN

Microsoft logam Nov 16, 2021

Op, thanks for the post! I am considering between high Amazon offer vs fb vs G. I was exactly thinking about this ops heavy experience at AWS with high tc vs interesting team at G. Do you mind sharing how much difference was between your G and Amazon offers?

Amazon Cxxoqka OP Nov 16, 2021

Around 60k

Amazon crixce Nov 16, 2021

Man...you left G in favor of Amazon for 60k ? You deserve that ops work for such a crazy decision. By the way, if you are not writing code and delivering feature, you are going to be an easy target for PIP to fulfil quota, they won't care wether there was opportunity or not to write the code or what contributions you made to Ops, they will use your number of lines of code to justify you for PIP

Amazon ratioURA Nov 16, 2021

bro this is so shitty for a new grad like me

Google Gnoogler Nov 16, 2021

Yeah, you're nut gonna be new grad from couple of years from now. Ask for development tasks.

Amazon ratioURA Nov 16, 2021

i do get dev tasks but the amount of ops work we have is stupid