Tech IndustryNov 15, 2019

Amazon screwing me! Literally

Joined a startup in London 6 months back on a tier 2 visa. Since the startup is not doing well and its future doesn't seem sorted, I interviewed and got an offer at Amazon London. Here is how the Amazon Recruiter are gaming me: Current TC = 72K pounds + 8K relocation bonus that was paid to me fro relocating to London from India. Amazon offer TC: 68K (47 base + 19 sign on + 2 stock) First of all they reduced my TC from 72 to 68. Also I will have to return the 8k relocation bonus back to the company and Amazon pays $15,000 for international relocation. Now the recruiter told me that they will not pay any relocation bonus nor will they reimburse my previous company's relocation bonus that I will have to return as I'm relocating from London itself. She even seems quite disinterested in having me on board as she keeps on mentioning that it's ok if I dont want to move ahead with the process forward. It seems that they dont give any shit about the engineers they are hiring specially the junior ones. YOE: 3 years in Goldman Sachs, Bangalore Guys please help me out. I'm quite desperate to join Amazon at the same time Amazon Recruiter are making me feel like a beggar. Any advice will be appreciated! Edit: It's damn tough to get an interview at the last moment to get competing offers. I surely deserve a better compensation than this shitty deal Edit1: Thanks everyone for their valuable suggestions. All in all I have realized that I'm not entitled for a relocation bonus! The community is suggesting me to get a competing offer and then negotiate further on the TC. Why would there be leverage with a competing offer when they are not even paying me as much as my current employer?

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Citrix Systems ಅವನೌನ ಹಡಾ Nov 15, 2019

What can we do ?

Amazon cbaz123 Nov 15, 2019

You can teach what your username means and how to use it effectively LMAO

Microsoft tobegrad Nov 15, 2019

47k base? Ouch. Apply other places in London.

Expedia Group shadow8 Nov 15, 2019

Apply to banking jobs. More pay, better wlb. Interview later when you can get multiple offers

PayPal maybeiam Nov 15, 2019

Suck it up, gain experience, become better until they are behind you

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QTdN03 Nov 15, 2019

It sounds to me like all SWE’s in the UK are getting screwed on TC!!

Microsoft tobegrad Nov 16, 2019

Nah. People just work for the wrong companies. FAANG isn’t going to pay great here, you’ve got to go to unicorns/hedge funds. London’s fintech scene is huge.

Microsoft GTFO++; Nov 15, 2019

Getting screwed, but hopefully not literally 😁. That's bodily harm afaik. Amazon isn't obliged to reimburse for the relocation PKG you took from India to UK. Sometimes company do so only to make offer attractive . You are already in London so why would they pay for relocation from India? As others said, either suck it up, or get in a better negotiating position by getting offers from elsewhere.

Microsoft fire_ OP Nov 15, 2019

Since I have to return the relocation package to my previous company, won't that make me eligible for a relocation bonus at Amazon?

Microsoft GTFO++; Nov 15, 2019

Nope.

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thriller50 Nov 15, 2019

Apply for other places like Skyscanner

Microsoft GTFO++; Nov 15, 2019

Why are you in a hurry? It's not that they've asked you to leave.

Microsoft fire_ OP Nov 15, 2019

It's just that if tomorrow the startup decides to close my org(as it is research wing of the company) things might get a bit rough for me as I'm on a visa.

Microsoft GTFO++; Nov 15, 2019

Understood. Keep the offer in hand, try arrange interviews elsewhere. Tell them you have an Amazon offer in hand. You don't necessarily have to disclose the details (at least not here in USA in my experience).

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thriller50 Nov 15, 2019

Gocardless pays 62k base

Cisco ananamx Nov 15, 2019

Lola wow impressive sheetcode stats. Too bad they don’t mean much when you can’t land a decent job. Get over your sheetcode stats

Microsoft fire_ OP Nov 15, 2019

I know it doesn't mean anything. It's just that even with even with all this leetcoding it's hard to get interviews scheduled.

Cisco ananamx Nov 15, 2019

What are you expecting out of London bro ? Move to the Bay Area or Seattle if thats an option