Amazon vs Palo Alto Networks
Currently working as a L4 SDE at Amazon AWS. Not getting along with my current manager and he is being totally unfair and unreasonable. Not going into details as blind is full of such stories. Have been interviewing past few weeks and got an offer from Palo Alto Networks for principal software engineer position (I know they have inflated titles). Saw few blind posts that cloud in PANW is far worse to work. Same is the work culture. At the same time, work culture at Amazon is not great too. Should I choose PANW over Amazon? Current TC ~200K Offered TC ~300K YOE 2.2/6
Low tc offered
For Principal engineer? Can you tell me what do you think is ideal?
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Yoe at amazon?
I may be biased and didnt work at ๐ firm, but here are my comparison points that I used when chose PANW over ๐ company: 1. PAN dont have URA quota and pip stories. 2. colleagues are very friendly and helpful, no backstabbing as there is no cutthroat culture and no upside when behaving like a jerk 3. currently most people WFH, there is no push to return to office, management listens to engineers carefully and asks for feedback on most things 4. Most important for me: top tier colleagues in cybersecurity, very deep expertise and constant innovations. 5. Depends on the team ofc, but you wont be bored with regular CRUD stuff. There is very serious focus on security research, R&D, and innovations. 6. TCwise - good RSU grant and refreshers and stock is ๐๐๐ 7. as for WLB - the stock is ๐๐๐ so there are expectations related to feature delivery, company wants to win new clients and new business, so your deliverables have direct impact on top line. Competition for customers in security is fierce both with established players and countless startups. Thats why everyone is motivated to do a good job and deliver features. management takes WLB seriously, vacation is unlimited. if you like security as a domain and want to grow professionally in security, PAN is a very good choice, very few alternatives (almost none)
What? I guess it depends on the team, I can't wait to for the first portion of the grant to vest and run away
Sorry you had this experience. Definitely talk to HR or your skip and see if you can transfer internally
If you're not getting along with your manager, look out for PIP.
Yes this makes it no brainer. Manager will throw you under the bus anyways
Very true
Whatโs 2.2/6 YOE?
2.2 years at Amazon and 6 total
Good offer and you should consider it
Is principal engineer equivalent to director at Palo Alto networks?
Not sure about the levels at PANW.
Principal is the same as Manager in terms of job level.
Principle here is more like L6
What? No. PE is like G's L5 responsibility-wise but L4ยฝ paywise.
I guess your department pay ๐โฆ
But your TC doesnโt look like Principle, maybe not in Bay Area?
He is in the lower band for principal but his experience is also low
Keep interviewing