Anyone ever wonder why SDEs are paid so much more than other tech roles?
Compared to Data Scientists, MLE, Data Engineers etc when so many SDEs complain that they are not working on interesting projects.
Data scientist or ML engineers are paid well too. Sometime more than software engineers
Yeah but with more school... I do it because it's a more interesting job but engineering pays better for the level of education
Been trying to hire forever for my team, finding talent isn't easy. Same comments from my manager friends at Facebook, Amazon and Google.
Sure it's not screwed interview process?
Finding talent is very easy it's the f*cked up interview process. You are asking people to find the maximum sum subarray when in reality they will be changing color of a button at Microsoft.
Post about TC without TC?? Tsk tsk.
Because we have to deal with a lot of ambiguous shit. Some SDEs even have to do half-management/TPM and design work. SDEs are the core leaders of most projects and projects can make or break based on decisions taken by SDEs and Product Management. That's why SDEs and PMs are paid well. Skill-specific engineers on the other hand have well scoped out asks they have to do and go home.
Are you sure about this one? You seem biased. You think handling TBs of data received everyday, building systems to store that, digging deep into unstructured data to draw patterns about customer behavior, creating curated customer lists that can affect their brand, building models where 0.005% increase in model accuracy can bump up revenue by millions, analysis of medical tests which if done incorrectly can invite a lawsuit, is an easy job that doesn't drive a company's decisions?
I'm talking about the ambiguity of work SWEs have to deal with vs say Data Engineers who are given well defined tasks.
The thing is each technical role isn't easy. Sde roles are just more in demand at the moment. With the changes coming down the pipe I don't know how they will fill the more slots that will be opened.
What's the difference between SDE and SWE?
Same thing, different abbreviations
Depends on the company .In most places DE is just a different type of SWE
I’ve seen many data scientists work less than 20 hours a week because there isn’t that much to do, but they can’t really help with other parts of the project like general SDEs.
Then why are they paid same or sometimes more than SDEs?
It is supply and demand. Software engineers are very picky and onsite interview passing rate is lower than any industries despite the candidates spent months to prepare. It is much tougher to get in nowadays than before. That artificial filtering creates a big demand and HR or hiring managers should offer a great pkg because the candidate who passed it must have been a chosen one. If you start being picky about hiring hardware engineers, pilots, chefs or even Uber/Taxi drivers, their compensation will increase. Think about why medical doctors are paid well. License throttles the supply. Nurses are also paid well but immigrants widened the supply hence it didn’t go up crazily. But before tech boom, nurses were paid as well as engineers if not more.
Supply and demand?
You think SDEs supply is less? 🤣I would argue the opposite
Demand is very high