Hi, I recently got an offer from Meta for E5 SDE role. I was able to negotiate the numbers to 200k base, 675k stock over 4y and 40k sign-on. Roughly 410k including the target bonus component. I finished my onsite loop at Apple for ICT4 and it went pretty well. If I were to get an offer from Apple, can this level pay band match/beat my Meta offer ? Current TC 290k YoE 10 All roles in Seattle, WA and Hybrid RTO.
Apple perhaps didn’t do layoffs. Meta did in massive numbers. Hope that apple match 400+
Depends on the org, if it’s AIML maybe but that was peak 2022 hiring. Apple has a no layoff chip in their court that they will play to low ball offers
Your E5 offer is slightly less than 2022 E5 offers. Meta is lowballing these days since they are the only ones hiring and candidates can’t get a competing offer that soon. Apple is cheap and will most likely not try to beat your Meta offer unless you are coming in the AI/ML domain. External ICT4 used to touch 400k plus easily during 2022, but now it will be really difficult to convince unless it is a specialized role and you are coming in as a domain expert. Add 15% buffer to your Meta offer and present it to Apple HR and see how they react.
Yeah, I didnt have a competing offer to negotiate my E5 offer. They still bumped it up by ~45k from their original one just because I asked. I am not interviewing for a domain specialized role. What you said makes sense.
Update: This is for fungible sde role and not ML/AI specialized one. I asked the recruiter and they said target comp range is 300-325k. So I guess I got my answer.
300-325k sounds super low for 10 yoe
Yeah, it sounded super low to me. Levels fyi says median pay in Seattle for IC4 is 360k. 🤷
Got the same offer from Apple AI ML, however I also had Meta offer which was 10% higher. I think other orgs in Apple except AI ML don’t pay that well, but Apple has other benefits like stability and peace of mind!
Apple can beat $410k if they really want you. There are ICT4 making more than $410k for sure
Exact same happened to me and got $400k from Apple and $540k from Meta. Apple recruiter said finance team is being really cheap rn. Not sure if true or not but seemed legit.
What team are you in at Apple?
200k base in Seattle is middle class (~123K in my area) but 675k in RSUs helps offset the low base salary at least until your salary cliff Ask them to double your base salary to $400K to bring home more money without having to sell stocks and pay capital gains tax. That's about $240K in my area
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