Apple London lowball ICT3 vs. Startup offers?

Both offers are in London. AI/ML field: Apple ICT3: 95k GBP base 25k GBP sign on 8k GBP relocation 148k USD RSU Hybrid RTO Startup: 150k gbp base Paper stock options at 300k USD Fully remote anywhere in London Work seems promising Startup Recruiter said this is Google L5/Apple ICT4 equivalent Apple recruiter said they value stock options of startup as $0 as its pre-IPO. So they matched the startup base but they down leveled me to ICT3 instead of ICT4 that the startup provides. Current TC- $108k (AMD Bangalore, stock appreciation) Yoe-6 + relevant masters in US Any folks from Apple who can provide input would be much appreciated ! #apple #lowball #negotiation #offer #offers

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Apple HypeOS Apr 13

Which startup? The base for 3 is good. RSU meh

AMD forucbjsb OP Apr 13

I can DM as it could identify me

Meta jens0n 3d

Hi OP, can I DM you as well?

ex-Bloomberg BSxU25 Apr 13

Startup base is very good, but I'd take Apple.

Apple Touw17 Apr 13

lol I accepted similar offer 1 year back. I would advise not to take this offer.

AMD forucbjsb OP Apr 13

Not to take Apple offer you mean? Are you in London?

AMD forucbjsb OP Apr 13

Can I DM you?

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vpIn52 Apr 13

Which startup? AI Startups today are a dime a dozen and you never know if they will be around after 2y, I'm currently at one and planning to leave. If you think the company will stick around, that's a much better offer. Huge base, and you're dependent on the first year sign on to have the same comp at Apple. After the first year things might be different. Be prepared to work a lot at the Startup tho. Apple is safer, but I'd go with the Startup for now.

AMD forucbjsb OP Apr 13

It’s an AI startup. Can’t reveal as it’s easy to identify

Apple spinnout Apr 13

Apple matched the base with tc? Or they increased it from the initial amount, 95k -> 150k?

AMD forucbjsb OP Apr 13

They matched startup base to Apple TC

AMD quantumai Apr 13

How did you land and interview from Bangalore to Apple London? Whenever I ping recruiters they tell me they are hiring locally. Anyway congratulations and all the best.

AMD forucbjsb OP Apr 13

It really depends on the team and role I guess. Thanks !