Apple offer eval

Sep 25, 2018 38 Comments

What do you think of the following for SW ICT3?

- base: 166k
- RSU: 230k over 4 years
- cash bonus: 10-15%
- refresher: 45k
- sign-on: 100k

The recruiter said this is basically the highest for ICT3, and that only way higher is going ICT4 (in terms of the offer).

Also, once starting at Apple, how long would it take to get ICT4, considering that the recruiter mentioned I’m being brought in at the high end of ICT3? Also, how much of the TC bump would it bring?

UPDATE: 10 yoe, 4-5 relevant

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TOP 38 Comments
  • Microsoft IEjP42
    That’s huge
    Sep 25, 2018 1
    • Aurora bystander!
      That’s what she said.
      Sep 25, 2018
  • Apple Ltnwd32
    Huge indeed, we don’t go that high for ICT3 in my org (SWE)
    Sep 25, 2018 1
    • Postmates 😘Alao
      OP
      What’s SWE org?
      Sep 25, 2018
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    • Postmates 😘Alao
      OP
      How so? Based on performance?
      Sep 25, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng @-63$!:&:8
    Yoe? Sounds like an excellent ICT3 offer
    Sep 25, 2018 0
  • Apple GtCI06
    Damn! I got 150k base on ICT3. I screwed up on RSUs at 105k now that I see your offer. Also, refreshers and bonus are not guaranteed and will be prorated on your first year, in case that matter for you. Which org? I’m in SWE
    Sep 25, 2018 3
    • Apple GtCI06
      That’s exactly what I meant by “not guaranteed.” Specially for refreshers, the average is just that, an average. Can be more can be less, based not only in your performance, but also visibility of your team/group/org.

      About the org, are you referring by any chance to Interactive Multimedia Group, IMG for short? Cause that’s is SWE (Craig’s org)
      Sep 26, 2018
    • Postmates 😘Alao
      OP
      Got it.

      I don’t think it’s the same org. This org is under Eddy, I believe.
      Sep 26, 2018
  • I’m not sure if they pay much attention to .org for TC. My org was IS&T and I still got a decent offer. Maybe 5-10k difference but not much beyond that. IS&T is supposed to be the bottom org.
    Dec 8, 2018 1
    • Apple GtCI06
      Well, only AI is a step ahead. The rat, as you mention, are quite close to each other
      Dec 8, 2018
  • Apple / Eng UuDq31
    Wow.. Apple gives out such high offers for ict3 . This is better than many ict4 offers I know
    Sep 25, 2018 1
    • Postmates 😘Alao
      OP
      I was told this is basically the highest Apple goes for ICT3. I’d guess ranges for each lvls overlap in the lowest and highest ends, so I guess that proves this is indeed at the highest end of T3 range?
      Sep 25, 2018
  • Apple German
    Troll...these are not ICT3 numbers..
    Sep 25, 2018 1
    • Postmates 😘Alao
      OP
      I had another offer at higher lvl with better package from a private company. They competed with that with this lvl. I chose this to get experience over $.
      Sep 25, 2018
  • Apple soups
    What org? Swe or ML/AI? YOE?
    ICT4 maybe in 2 years. You are at ICT4 band already so you won’t get too much of a bump. Most early stage ICT4s I know don’t have 166 base.. this is really high already
    Also, how do you know your refresher? 45k is fairly low.. you should get 60-80k
    Sep 25, 2018 1
    • Postmates 😘Alao
      OP
      Apple Media Group? (Haven’t nailed org names and and things down yet). Not much bump for ICT4 is kinda disappointing :( I had another big offer I let go that I was hoping to catch up to soon.

      As for refresher, that’s what the recruiter told me. She says this is if I get meets expectation rating. Hope this means with better perf rating I’d be able to hit that 60-80k range!
      Sep 25, 2018
  • Aurora bystander!
    YOE?
    Sep 25, 2018 1
    • Postmates 😘Alao
      OP
      Updated.
      Sep 25, 2018

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