Being in the industry, I barely see any East Asian managers except at Facebook, but I've seen many Indian managers in other companies. Why is that? I've had many managers in past, and don't think race plays a role in being a good manager. However, not seeing a lot of executives with similar ethics background like me makes me worried about my chances of moving up the ladder.
Guessing either you don’t meet any people in real life or no one wants to meet you. Thank you sir Behenchod ;)
Learn saying “thank you sir” and backstabbing afterwards
Lots of east Asians are not so good at self promotion...the ones I know who did well do this very well vs just doing the work well
I don’t want to generalize and I’m not sure if this is a reason but I’ve felt, as an East Asian, that the way we present ourselves at work has a lot to do with our culture and upbringing . A lot of us tend to be super cognizant about not stepping on people’s toes, not taking up space, just keeping our heads down, and completing the work very well. We think that our demeanor, work ethic, and quality will speak for itself. In reality, doing that hurts us because in order to gain that eminence to move up the ladder, we need to be more, for lack of a better word, “showy”.
I have to admit I have not encountered an East Asian that is showy, brags about their work. If anything they are very good at their work and for the most part downplay it.
Makes sense, Indians are usually the first I’ve seen to brag about their work (yes, I’m Indian)
Perhaps they make excellent IC's and not so good Leaders?
Don't think race plays a role in being a good leader. Not sure of other places but at Cisco Indians are promoting and hiring Indians from the same caste, maybe that's why.
That's a horrible thing which came out from Cisco. But what I said above is something I have observed after working for 5 companies in the bay for last 15 years.
As someone else commented, most East Asians are not good with self-promotions. We are stereotyped as docile, model-minorities that keep quiet/don’t rock the boat. Violations of stereotype make someone less likable. My professor told us of a study in which an Asian person scoring 70% on a math exam was judged more harshly and more critically than a white/black person scoring the same 70% on the same math exam. The Asian is supposed to be good in math, so their subpar performance in math made them appear unreliable and thus less likable. Self-promotion, assertiveness, speaking up, just overall being visible— these are the hallmark qualities of people that tend to rise up the ranks. Unfortunately, they are stereotype violations for East Asians. Less likable, less promo possibility...
Blame Confucius
Maybe it’s just the language barrier for East Asians who grew up in east Asia (it’s like starting a race five meters behind, even if you catch up quickly you are always trailing...)? Though it’s always going to be an uphill struggle if you aren’t a tall white dude.
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It may be possible that there's bias against Indians, but no one cares about Asian discrimination, so there's nothing we can do about it.
How likely is it that a non-east-Asian could rise through the ranks living in East Asia and working for a company there? I'd argue no worse than the situation for Asians in the USA.
But #stopasianhate! /s