Tech IndustryFeb 18, 2019

At long last, can we please have a SW bar exam?

I can't stop thinking how much it would make sense to just have a software engineering bar exam. Other professional careers (medical, law) have one, so why not SWE? Even if I had to take a full day sit-down exam twice a year, it would still be preferable to Leetcoding over and over again. Imagine going into an interview with a good bar score and having to only answer system design and culture fit questions. It would be a much more enjoyable experience for everyone involved. What do you think?

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Google matched Feb 18, 2019

What will you ask in the bar exam?

Walmart.com äččä Feb 18, 2019

LC medium and hard 😂

Intel c64 OP Feb 18, 2019

Computerized written questions. Similar to coding tests, but questions selected by an accredited body, similar to the College Board for college enterance tests. Even a panel made up of distinguished FANG engineers would be a good idea.

Intel mil ller Feb 18, 2019

There is a business idea right here. Business schools use GMAT scores as a tool to screen applicants. One could create something similar, a centralized clearing house with a score. Each company can do their additional due diligence, but it would make life so much better for everyone!!

Walmart.com äččä Feb 18, 2019

Like Triplebyte but on a much larger and formal scale

Uber jishsbka Feb 18, 2019

Dumb idea

Facebook goit Feb 18, 2019

Problem is u dont know the though process..

Intel c64 OP Feb 18, 2019

Oh, then please enlighten us!

Google tsukino Feb 18, 2019

And if you don't pass the bar, then you can't legally practice as SWE?

IBM choob Feb 18, 2019

All tech companies would boycott something like this so hard.

Walmart.com äččä Feb 18, 2019

It’s not such a bad idea... only improvement I would add is you have your score can only be valid for say 2 years

Verizon whineyB Feb 18, 2019

Or only for two penises

Lockheed Martin iEkO37 Feb 18, 2019

There is already an exam to get your PE license as a SWE.

Intel c64 OP Feb 18, 2019

Does anyone in the industry actually care about this? From the people Ive seen achieve this, it makes no difference.

Lockheed Martin iEkO37 Feb 18, 2019

I've only seen it at Lockheed. I guess it holds weight when dealing with DOD critical mission stuff but still it's not very common.

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PcNF27 Feb 18, 2019

Then you’ll just leetcode over and over to prepare for this test.

Intel c64 OP Feb 18, 2019

No! Then you'll be paying Kaplan and Princeton review to get you prepped for these tests, at least it first. Eventually it should become second nature.

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PcNF27 Feb 18, 2019

So you want to make software engineering a boring office job? That’s the beauty of the whole field and what attracts the most brilliant geniuses to it. It’s a place where interviewers have the space to creatively evaluate candidates and for engineers to have the chance to demonstrate how their time spent on learning technology X translates to technology Y at this company. Half of the questions I ask at interviews don’t get answered fully. I measure the candidate’s ability to think outside the box and appreciate the thought process. Putting all that in a standardized test will just get people better at succeeding in tests. Just like TOEFL and other tests. An EE having a license doesn’t mean that they are creative.

Yelp overmind Feb 18, 2019

Pointless regulation

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edgecase Feb 18, 2019

I'm not very book smart, so I vote no.