Tech IndustryOct 26, 2023
MicrosoftKiratVohli

Austin hype is over

Many areas in Austin where tech folks buy homes have seen prices drop 30-40% from pandemic peak. Currently the housing inventory in Austin metro sits at 4 months which is significantly improved from the measly 2 weeks when folks were moving into Austin like crazy. I even saw sub 300k home near Dell campus which was not possible a few months ago. RIP who bought a 800-900k or a significantly high priced home during pandemic time in Austin! https://www.redfin.com/news/housing-migration-trends-q3-2023/

Austin, Once a Migration Hotspot, Is Losing Homebuyers to Other Cities For First Time on Record
Austin, Once a Migration Hotspot, Is Losing Homebuyers to Other Cities For First Time on Record
Redfin Real Estate News
Apple bb882l Oct 26, 2023

Ok now the Bay Area next plz

Meta WWsP23 Oct 26, 2023

In your dreams. For all the hate it gets the bay’s physical location alone means it will always command a significant premium.

Cognizant azht42 Oct 26, 2023

I think that’s not how it functions, just locations don’t create values in a property

NVIDIA ajSD05 Oct 26, 2023

It's temporary, let's pump the money into RE

Microsoft KiratVohli OP Oct 26, 2023

Real Wages (after accounting for inflation) aren't increasing. If housing prices in one area like Austin keeps increasing, people will just pack up and leave to a lower cost location just as they did when moving from Bay area and NYC to Texas. Now, if Texas was Like Miami, Florida or Denver/SLC where there's either sunny beaches or beautiful mountains around you, then yes there is support for price increases but in Texas, there's nothing much to support that as people are learning the hard way!

Amazon Titfortat Oct 30, 2023

Not sure I understand the sweeping claims being made here. SF median housing price over 2022 went into the toilet in the same way Austin is correcting. Many areas (even ‘pretty’ mountainous areas like SLC are getting destroyed with only a minor increase the last few weeks, and a 32% mean drop -but due to the lack of tech psycho paths that think tech is the only thing, posts on SLC’s challenges won’t show up here as a comparison because, ummm… there are more things and businesses than just tech) are having challenges with price merely due to interest rate changes alone -price and capital cost tend to be inverse! Moreover, there are both endogenous and exogenous elements of the pandemic that accelerate investment of capital into the area. Most of this capital was planned, and many of these investments have long horizons (same thing happened to Boston in the 1980-1990 which made them a biotech and pharma powerhouse over NY) and it too experienced a drop in real estate in a way that all the single-cell-brained pharma bros were saying was “then end” (sounds very familiar) when rates punished the accelerated investment of capital. The capital will preserve demand for labor and with the shear magnitude of the Texas economy, Austin will continue to have its own swings as those investment fit the resources expectations and demands in the economy. The bias in this post by OP is clear -lack of really thinking how resources cement growth over time vs. changes in capital costs, and comparing dissimilar geographies with very different industry composition.

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go/fish Oct 26, 2023

Shocker. People have realized there’s nothing special about the dirt in ATX and now they’re moving on to cheaper dirt.

Microsoft KiratVohli OP Oct 26, 2023

Correct. If Austin or Texas overall had beaches like Florida or mountains or national parks like the Rockies and the Smokies areas, then yes, there would be something to support continuous prices increase but all you have is plain land for multiple hundreds of miles around you where houses can be built and cities could be expanded non-stop for ages to come. So there's no lack of land to build and hence no price increases like that seen in last 3-4 years.

Apple BilloBee Oct 30, 2023

Heck we don’t have proper international airport either

Meta LGTMshiplt Oct 26, 2023

Yeah Austin was such a random city to become a tech center It’s a genuine dump, not a lot of great schools, horrible Texas weather (most of the Midwest has better weather even), close to nothing, no major airport, not much to do downtown outside of live music, road infrastructure is bad

PayPal GpCfg9iN Oct 26, 2023

Drinking! They got a lot of drinking. You can get drunk on craft beer and whiskey and even hipster shit like mead. Thats about it.

Meta LGTMshiplt Oct 26, 2023

Yeah but the whole Midwest has drinking too at a much cheaper COL

Samsung WOQP27 Oct 26, 2023

What neighborhood is near dell?

Microsoft KiratVohli OP Oct 26, 2023

Round Rock duh!

Insurance Company IIUr25 Oct 26, 2023

Unfortunately during the pandemic people forgot how to do math. They’re about to get a lesson nation wide if they try and sell. Can also stay for a while and ride it out. Most have very low mortgages comparative to a new purchase

Qualcomm jxLL64 Oct 26, 2023

Austin lol why would anyone buy for a million dollar? If it were supposed to be tech hub it wouldve been 20 years back

Microsoft KiratVohli OP Oct 26, 2023

Funny money was abundant during pandemic due to artificial low interest rates. It led to unrealistic TCs in tech due to astronomical stock rise and that people thought was going to last forever!

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laidoffgpt Oct 28, 2023

We bought for $850 and just sold our home for $1.35

NVIDIA VoteDem🗽 Oct 26, 2023

It was obvious. Austin was only worth it when it was cheap. And now with Dobbs, Texas isn't worth it if you want to keep living in the 21st century. https://apnews.com/article/abortion-travel-ban-roads-west-texas-3997304c4156f131ee90bb1363735ba3

Microsoft FloridaGuy Oct 26, 2023

It’s not even just about Dobbs. Weather is garbage. It’s HOT most of the year Schools suck unless your kid wants to play football or baseball. Roads suck Crappy property tax Tons of suburban sprawl City amenities and attractions suck One of the few things that had people flocking here was that the mortgage to income ratio was FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC. Company pay scales in Texas have completely ignored the significant increase in property prices. 200k houses are now 4-500k yet you still make the same? Now that mortgages suck here, that was the last thing that made this place good. A lot of transplants from other expensive states accused us native Texans of being gatekeepers. We really meant it when we said if you actually LIKED where you came from (besides home prices), then don’t come to Texas because home prices is all we got and that’s been blown up thanks to COVID

NVIDIA VoteDem🗽 Oct 26, 2023

Sorry if I didn't word it right. That's my point, it wasn't worth it even before Dobbs unless it was cheap, and now it's even worse.

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exp. Oct 26, 2023

Austin is just an average city. You don’t even get the perks of major cities like Dallas or Miami.

Meta LGTMshiplt Oct 26, 2023

Yeah Miami is 1000000x cooler than Austin. World class city even

MongoDB NwYP76 Oct 26, 2023

Meta what do you like about Miami?

Tesla 💯🤡 🌍_ Oct 26, 2023

Leander buyers are sweating right now

Dell atxcrash Oct 26, 2023

Whole of Leander underwater..

Meta yvxE27 Oct 26, 2023

Liberty hill checking in 🤡🤡