I have an ICT5 offer from Apple. Currently IC6 at Meta. Can potentially get promoted to IC7 by next year. How is career growth at Apple? Been hearing rumors that it’s mostly stagnant. Also have another offer as director of engineering in a non FAANG company with potential to grow. Confused on what to do Current TC: 350K Apple TC: 400K
Your TC is 350K at IC6 in Meta?
Yes. In hardware, stock drop, refreshers received at high price!!
Hi are you me?
Dont choose Apple
Explain please?
I regret it. Lots of admin work with very slow progress. Even at ICT5 you can’t make many decisions without approval from many levels above. Feel like I’m hitting my head against a brick wall.
Depends on the team and your position in the organizational chart.
ICT5 at apple is pretty much the terminal level. Working hard and delivering results alone will not get you promoted. You need to kiss the right ass at the right time, and Sr Directors need to know you on first name basis and work with you routinely. It's hard but doable - if you don't care about WLB and don't have a family to take care of.
ICT4 is terminal for most. My skip manager is Sr Director so exposure to the top has been easy for me fortunately.
Unless you're an industry hot shot, ICT6 is going to be impossible. The next step for ICT5s is really M1/M2. If you're really not a people person then tough.
apple is more stable than Meta, ICT5 is also good. worth to go for apple
when I talked with Meta recruiter, she said that Apple ict6 matches to meta ic6, so you should fight for ict6 if meta recruiter tells the truth :). Also I have a friend in Meta saying ict6 can get ic6 and may have chance to fight for ic7…
That recruiter is wrong lol.
Op, why is ICT5 at 400k? Can you breakdown? Seems low to me. Looks like they are taking advantage of the downturn.
I am an ICT5 who had $400k on my W-2 :(
HWT? I recently joined but I couldn’t negotiate to get ICT5. My mgr mentioned ICT5 package is real good. Maybe I need to be here couple of years to understand the reality
Didn't your current TC shoot up after today's performance letters? Mine went up like 100k 🎉
Is it for HW or SW? I am surprised Zuck can increase TC even after so much pressure.
SW, got a high rating. So...
ICT5 is good, but getting to ICT6 is going to be hard. You basically need to be having a lot of SVP exposure and be an industry hot shot. Care to share the details of your Apple offer?
ICT6 won’t be hard, it will be impossible.
Slow
How easy or difficult is the transition to manager roles at Apple?
Difficult