Hey guys im deciding on joining Workday soon as manager. (MLE at meta) Im taking a pay cut to join so im wondering if it’s worth it. (My career goal is to become a manager and get good at it) How’s the wlb at workday? Do you guys also have pip culture? New tc 500k Old tc 950k (meta)
Not worth it
Why not?
If you join as a manager in Workday to reach director role it will take 6 years at least, that is equivalent to M1 in Meta. So you have better chances becoming M1 in 6 years and keeping that hefty TC as well. 500k in workday put you at layoff risk easily as it isn’t common in Workday, once you lose the job getting back to 950k is nearly impossible.
Why do you want to go to Workday? Sounds like a place where innovation goes to die. Probably good WLB though
Mainly to become a manager, getting on manager track is a long road at meta
You didn’t mention your YOE but 500k is good for Workday regardless. But why not try becoming an EM at a similar company to Meta? The tech bar for Workday is seriously so, so far below.
You will be disappointed at the caliber of people you will end up dealing with. Some might be good, but lots of them are going to make you bang your head over your career choice. I thought L6 IC to EM is pretty easy at Meta?
Not anymore given the year of efficiency bullishit and demotion of managers to ic
Not worth going to a bad company just for becoming a manager. Instead what I see now is people applying for manager roles in good companies directly even if you are not currently a manager. Happy to point you in DM to a fang director who can help you prepare for manager roles in fang companies directly
Curious on this as well. Can I DM as well?
Management is not all it is cracked up to be. I climbed the company ladder and got burned out and got tired of babysitting. Went back to IC and happy, have freedom and don’t work nights and weekends anymore. Keep the Meta money and live life. Viva!
The WLB at Workday is really good for ICs on some teams (and on average good). I once left at 4:30 on a normal Friday (pre-pandemic) and was the last person on my floor. Not sure about management though.
OP - are you engineering? Sales? Just curious. TC @ Meta is solid but I understand why you would consider leaving.
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You might want to interview at other places like Rippling? Some company that's in between Meta and Workday in terms of WLB and TC. Don't know, just a thought
Workday is that bad? 😂
1M TC is still impressive despite meta
Honestly not big difference in quality of life given the amount of stress and fear of pip all the time