Think about it: our national security rests more on the contractor talent pool than the military itself. If Aerospace and Defense wages continue to lag other industries, we will hemorrhage even more talent to the point of no longer being able to design and produce the products our country needs to protect itself, and our allies. Anyone who has worked in defense, and especially the classified world, knows how long it takes to build deep knowledge in our products. It is nearly impossible to backfill may engineers. And letâs not forget the lengthy (months to years) process of getting people cleared to work. This is an enormous risk. They know it, which is why security is always scrutinizing whether or not we are susceptible to foreign influence (typically of the financial kind). The fact is, more and more A&D talent will become susceptible to influence as people struggle to make ends meet in the imminent recession. We already have engineers living in apartments with multiple roommates like college kids because they arenât paid enough. Itâs really This is a massive advantage to unionize. We are irreplaceable. We have a ton of bargaining power. They canât outsource us, like other industries can. They need to pay us. We need to be lobbying congress to increase salary caps as well.
The issue that I see is the industry is sloooow. And I used to be in auto before. But defense is slower. On the contrary Iâm in semi now and I probably have to work 2x-3x harder in some way. And not to mention, defense contractors skim the government already.
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Anduril has grown from 100 people to over 2000 in the past 4 years. Of course we're hiring. Have you seen our careers page?
Never gonna happen. The second you or anyone else working in defense with a clearance starts making those kinds of moves youâll all get mysteriously laid off and get your clearances yanked. If you somehow do manage to start a movement that gains momentum expect to see the ringleaders all mysteriously becoming either unpersoned with BS allegations of absolutely heinous shit out of nowhere or quickly becoming alivenât under totally normal circumstances.
Props for the first use of alivenât but I assure you that all of us in cleared work have a significantly less interesting life than your tale suggests. Clearances are the exact opposite in this regard as well - if you can fog a mirror with a clearance youâre employed, and they canât find enough of us. Our sprints are waddles, and if any sector is incompetent enough to unionize in tech, itâll be defense by a mile.
Government wonât budge. Government budget is audited and controlled and publicity wonât let the government to spend much more than it already does right now. Most people wants less taxes and less spendings from government since this country is deeply rooted with capitalism mindset.
We can perform the work with fewer engineers. We overhire and underpay. We are in this pattern because we have high attrition because of⌠pay!⌠so we always have to keep the door revolving and panic over being able to execute on work. Boeing, LM, NG, RTX, etc, are all virtually the same company. Engineers at every single company bounce between them every 2-3 years trying to increase their compensation. Itâs absolute madness. Taxpayers would be better off with higher paid engineers that donât leave, donât have to pay out relo packages, sign on bonuses, clearances, etc.
Yes thatâs true. Hire less and pay more per employee. But wouldnât the pay depend on the billing hourly rate that the company charges to the government? So unless you work way more than 40hrs, pay will still be peanut no matter how many employees there are. It sucks hard when your salary depends on hourly rate. The only way you can make more is by faking like you were doing more hours with overtime?
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