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I am so fked. Renege Meta offer?
Base: 240K RSU: 360/4 = 90K Sign on: 100K Target bonus: 15% ICT5 This works out to: 240K+90K+25K+36K = 391K Feels like a lowball offer as it accounts for guaranteed annual bonus and possible stock refreshers. Current: Amazon SDE L6, 12 yoe, TC 450K Link to previous poll prior to receiving offer: "Amazon L6 to Apple ICT?" https://www.teamblind.com/us/s/boTiLLfE
Why would you take a paycut
Don't do it! Refreshers will not easily make up for it anytime soon (you are too late to get full refresher this year) and stock appreciation is very weak, we are already a 3T company
I have an offer from Apple as well! The recruiter said that the cutoff date for refresher is April joining? Is this true?
Yes but you're not going to get full refreshers. It'll be very pro-rated. Join after that April and I think you get nothing
Is there a location difference? Your Apple offer is unnaturally low.
Amazon is not a company to have a fulfilling career, it's a non stop grind. Not sustainable. Go to apple
Throw it back at the recruiter. ICT5 should definitely be in 450k plus range. You also have 12 yoe. I know folks at ICT5 who joined in last two years with less than 10 yoe making >500k. Refreshers will take time to catch up. Donβt take a pay cut. It is not worth it. You will feel demoralized looking at the undeserving folks at Apple making more than you. Keep interviewing. Also you can try other teams at Apple. There is no restrictions in terms of how many teams you can interview concurrently. See if you can find some positions in AIML. Thatβs where people get paid handsomely.
Can you concurrently interview for different positions in Amazon or Apple? What happens if you get rejected in one? Isn't there a cool off period?
No cool off. Apple interviews are team specific. You can get rejected by one team and still can get offer from another team. The only catch with concurrent team interviews is that if you get offer from both the teams, you have to select one before moving to offer negotiation.
Why move? You make more in Amazon. After sign on vests in 1 year, your tc will go down. Are you close to cliff in Amazon?
Yes, my cliff is in a year and my refreshers at Amazon werenβt that high to keep the pipeline going. Stock is up, so effective TC might be high next year. Hard to say.
Did you calculate post cliff tc? I am sure, it should be 100k lower than before cliff. Not just Amazon, but in many companies it gets worse.
Ask for 600k RSU then itβs a good deal.
Negotiate more, but think of pros and cons outside of salary (I.E: if Apple does not give you more what else is there to consider? Better work life balance? Location? Experience in a new space? On the opposite end - how far are you from L7?)
Definitely on the lower side. What org?