Total comp around 450k. (Edit) Breakdown: ~210k base, RSU+yearly bonus rest. Not counting other benefits like ESPP. Pros: Work with really smart people. Top talent in my area. Stacking refreshers. Cons: - I'm not an Apple Fanboy. So dealing with Apple devouts may piss me off on a regular basis. - [Assumption] Can't talk about most my work outside of Apple? I prefer to talk about work related stuff with like minded people, even outside of work. - [Assumption] WLB? Not sure Current Job: Pros: - Current TC ~ 600k - WLB is okay Cons: - Meetings - Documents - Working with mostly B/C type people. Some B+/A type. - $SNAP performance today has started giving me second thoughts about it's future Looking for serious advice as I'm quite confused currently. - What is the level with 450k salary. Apple recruiter won't tell me the level. - How is WLB for teams working on iPhone/iWatch related system software? #tech #apple #snap
iPhone system SW, not going to have excellent wlb
600k TC and after today’s 22% drop, I assume it would still be > 500k. IMO - it’s never worth giving up higher compensation just to work with smarter people or in better projects. But if you do go down path - we Al can talk about what we work on, but not take names or reveal the unreleased product itself, and this is what happens in any high profile product at G or 🍌 as well. It looks like ICT4 but be aware, you will get pro rated bonus and refreshers n your 1st year here.
Agree with all you said except the last point. I joined 3/4 of the review cycle and still got full bonus and refreshers.
What is smart people? Smart doesn't mean anything. U have some really famous engineers in the team who has done something big? U mean that. U told system SW. Is that device drivers and stuff?
450k sounds ICT4. Wlb is very dependent on the team/org. AI/ML is great, not sure about other sw orgs, but I know hw folks bleed to death! Also you don't have to be a fanboy. I still use my Samsung phone in the office. Nobody cares. What's the offer breakdown? Did you count refreshers and cash bonus too?
I agree that we don’t need to be a fanboy to work at Apple but working alongside fanboys is quite exhausting as well 🤷♂️
Added the breakdown. I counted the cash bonus + rsu.
Fwiw I also came to Apple with fears of being surrounded by Apple fan boys every day. Overall it’s been ok. The only times that do get annoying are the yearly release events when everyone gathers to watch it together and is amazed by the smallest changes. I avoid this by watching it by myself at my desk while also catching up with the Netflix shows that I’m behind on
Why would you take a lower TC? ride it out, interview again when your RSUs run out
What is your Apple offer breakdown?
What .. why would thank a pay cut , this is ICt4
Duh… TC includes the 10x stock appreciation. Actual is ~220k
And?